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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8th 1947

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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bespoke radio for

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the masses

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yeah man

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how you doing today is tuesday march 1st

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left let's do this man

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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a total undisclosed location but it is

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that's right

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it is i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer and unnext networks i'm your

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what is kraken

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how you doing all right tonight

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we welcome very special guest

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jason quit that's right jason quit is

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back for conspiracy number nine

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i thought i would mess with everybody

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and create our own conspiracy tonight

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and and just say that this was number

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just to see who was going to call that a

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everybody considers everything

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a conspiracy today

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all right tomorrow night tony and sheree

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rathman uh join us for a full night of

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ghost hunting that is tomorrow night

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thursday is another fader night with

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open lines all night long

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all right man i am in a great mood

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and i've got a

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of river moon coffee is that

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is that a conspiracy

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more on that in just a minute i'm gonna

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that's right the conspiracy of coffee

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at j church radio

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going to let everybody know what's going

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he's like man uh i'm not gonna sign off

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i'm i'm gonna stay right here and stare

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at you and and you're gonna intro the

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conspiracy it's a conspiracy follow me

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i decided not to do the news tonight

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is that a conspiracy

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is that right there a conspiracy no this

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in a moment uh jason and i you know were

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uh an hour or two after that and we just

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an amazing conversation i can't wait to

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that's exactly right

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last night too many jays this week um on

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this is what is strange

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three hours a night so that's four hours

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that i'm not on social media

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three hours a night four nights a week

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and it has allowed me

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to develop

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unwritten or written some legislation

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stay off your cell phone and talk to

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you have to have an actual conversation

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the the the the tense

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nobody would accept that and just

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imagine your children they would lose

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how i've changed

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that works for me

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i was forced into it

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i know who i am and how i've changed and

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and wow the opportunity to do just that

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to be forced to setting down my cell

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phone

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and having a real

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for three hours four nights a week

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and could i push that on and no nobody

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would accept that not not not in today's

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and is that part of our problem yes it

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is it certainly is

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i was forced

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into doing it well i volunteered for

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this job but i'm saying that the job

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no cell phone conversation

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four nights a week three hours

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all right now just imagine if that was

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like legislation

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think about that

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and that's what jordan and i talked

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about last night standing under the

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stars where we are today

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you know and you think about it he's 30

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years old and what

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you know his generation has grown up

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with and endured

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and and things and how they look at at

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things just differently than we do and

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and when i say we you know anybody that

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you know before 1980 1970 me 1963

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you know and and and what we were used

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to and how we grew up

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versus today

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we don't really

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we're here with you for three hours a

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night church we're doing that we're

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engaging in the conversation yeah yeah

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okay do an additional three hours

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actually put down yourself

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a conversation

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with somebody a real conversation

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because that's the way we used to do it

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we actually used to talk

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before i move on uh with the show

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i can't believe

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that i have to tell i don't want to

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sound like an old man but i am

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tell kids including my own right

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that there was a time

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when you had to pick up your phone

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and he didn't know who was calling

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you had to pick up the phone no matter

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who was calling on the other end the

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phone's ringing

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and it's bound by an umbilical cord to

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the wall

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you can't walk away from it and you have

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to go over and you have to pick it up

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and you have to say hello and you it's a

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random shot

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you have no idea it's a total random

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pickup

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today

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we do the opposite

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think about it all right let's get this

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show cracking happy birthday to today

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ron howard op taylor 68 years old man

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just done nothing but great things

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javier bardem

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today is 53.

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my introduction to javier and i i know

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that you know he's done other things but

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uh no country for old men and he scared

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the crap out of me and then right after

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that he was in skyfall scared the crap

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out of me again

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and then of course start in dune

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reggae original gangsta

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burning spear

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today is 77 and if you think you're

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you're you're you're into reggae because

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no

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go get yourself some burning spear

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and listen to that

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and then uh then you could advance to

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the level of being a raga fan skid row

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drummer rob afluso today is 59

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in the legend the legendary

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the who's roger daltrey today

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is 78 years old our dead guy's birthday

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today is

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almond thick 1947 to 2016 died at the

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age of 69 right here in burbank

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california allen

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was a canadian actor a songwriter a game

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and talk show host and uh somebody that

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jason quit has got an autographed eight

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by ten

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glossy there in the studio and i'm

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looking at it there the pride of canada

352
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no doubt about that he is also the

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father

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of robin thicke

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in 2013 he was inducted into canada's

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walk of fame

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allen also played dr jason siever on the

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1980s humongously big huge hit tv show

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growing pains

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on december 13

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2016 he collapsed while playing ice

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hockey with his son

363
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at carter uh his son carter at pickwick

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gardens right here in burbank california

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allen died later that day of a type a

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aortic dissection at st joseph medical

367
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center here in burbank at the age of 69.

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on this day in history otd

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1692

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on this day

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1692

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sarah goode

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sarah osborne

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and to buddha a slave from

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barbados all three are charged with

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witchcraft

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and the salem witch hunt begins

378
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on this day in 1692 fader fact

379
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was paid only 800 rubles for

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swan lake

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or about 460 dollars

382
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back then

383
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in today's money that would be about

384
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seven dollars and 78 cents

385
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and that

386
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is your fader fact tomorrow it's gonna

387
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be about three bucks

388
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tonight we welcome very special guest

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jason quit is back for conspiracy number

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nine

391
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tomorrow night tony and cherie rathman

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join us for a night of ghost hunting and

393
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thursday is another fader night with

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open lines all night long and

395
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another part of uh conspiracy

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uh tonight and you might have noticed

397
00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:41,679
this last night

398
00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:45,520
is yes i i am uh sporting another

399
00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:47,360
microphone this is uh

400
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my third or fourth microphone

401
00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:52,960
uh this week going into last week

402
00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:55,919
and uh i'm testing microphones

403
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and and i've got a bunch

404
00:20:01,750 --> 00:20:00,640
and so i thought i would rotate these

405
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through

406
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and and just see

407
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:06,720
which one i like which one i like the

408
00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,320
best maybe in the end i'll i'll do a

409
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video and i'll do a shootout

410
00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:12,240
uh with with all the mics they're all

411
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great they're just all a little bit

412
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different

413
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and uh tonight

414
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i'm uh

415
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uh using uh the new shure

416
00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:23,520
mv7 this is the one without the

417
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electronics

418
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this is just the straight one

419
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okay anyway so another another

420
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conspiracy jimmy's using a new

421
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microphone

422
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yeah there'll be a different one up here

423
00:20:39,270 --> 00:20:37,280
tomorrow

424
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okay um

425
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:40,720
oh river moon coffee

426
00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:42,880
rivermoonwellness.com

427
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:45,200
best coffee in the world

428
00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:48,480
fade to black blend

429
00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:51,840
ah ken priest there's another conspiracy

430
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:53,919
ken priest

431
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allegedly

432
00:21:01,110 --> 00:20:57,919
is building

433
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:01,120
a a biscuits restaurant called rise it's

434
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:02,480
called rise

435
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:05,200
and on paper it looks good

436
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,200
you know biscuits homemade biscuits and

437
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:09,520
and everything that goes along with that

438
00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:10,400
right

439
00:21:14,830 --> 00:21:12,799
building one here in southern california

440
00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:14,840
he's been building this

441
00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:19,039
restaurant for three years okay so uh

442
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:20,559
we'll see jimmy man i'm gonna be out

443
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,080
there man let's hang out

444
00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:24,080
you know opening up my new restaurant

445
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:26,159
you know and uh we we gotta hang out

446
00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:28,240
absolutely ken and it's three years

447
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:29,280
later

448
00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:31,120
teasing me

449
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:35,840
where am i at ah everybody likes a good

450
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,400
old conspiracy

451
00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:40,799
we all love it seriously

452
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:42,960
it's uh the foundation of this show

453
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:44,559
actually

454
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:47,919
and tonight jason quit is is back for

455
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:49,840
another conspiracy

456
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:52,960
and just his presence suggests another

457
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:54,240
conspiracy

458
00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:56,640
because uh

459
00:22:00,549 --> 00:21:59,120
some say it's nine

460
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:00,559
not eight

461
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:02,799
i'll let that swirl for a moment

462
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,640
what's the intention there that's called

463
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:06,400
creating a conspiracy

464
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,080
right and it's done all day long

465
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,559
creating a conspiracy because everything

466
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:14,400
is a conspiracy today

467
00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:15,760
but

468
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:18,880
if we look at our world right now

469
00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:22,400
well it seems that we actually

470
00:22:24,830 --> 00:22:23,919
live

471
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:24,840
in a

472
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:32,000
you hear me speak these words not one

473
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:33,520
but multiple

474
00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:35,679
in real time

475
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:38,159
conspiracies

476
00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:39,280
so

477
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,760
as we do the show tonight i need you to

478
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:43,120
put a couple of things in the back of

479
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:45,280
your head and one of them

480
00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:48,320
is this what is a conspiracy

481
00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:49,760
well

482
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:52,640
it's kind of simple at first so let's

483
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:55,360
look at the definition as it is stated

484
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:57,120
right now

485
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:01,200
in the merriam-webster dictionary one

486
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:02,480
the act

487
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:06,720
of conspiring together

488
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:08,799
like you know they were accused of

489
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:11,200
conspiracy to commit

490
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:12,480
murder

491
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:15,039
right a crime

492
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:16,799
or two a

493
00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:19,520
an agreement among conspirators

494
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:21,360
uncovered a conspiracy against the

495
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:22,720
government

496
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:23,919
right

497
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:26,799
or b

498
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:29,919
a group of conspirators a conspiracy

499
00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:32,640
made up the disgruntled

500
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:35,039
aristocrats

501
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:37,280
in the justice system

502
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:40,640
conspiracy is two or more individuals

503
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:43,840
committing a crime together

504
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:46,799
they were charged with conspiracy to

505
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:48,880
commit murder they were charged with

506
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:51,919
conspiracy to distribute drugs they were

507
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:54,080
charged with a conspiracy right okay you

508
00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:56,240
get you get the idea

509
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:57,440
today

510
00:24:02,470 --> 00:23:59,440
conspiracy has evolved into something

511
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:02,480
else altogether conspiracy theory

512
00:24:07,269 --> 00:24:04,880
comes into play

513
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:07,279
which is the state of matter

514
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:10,880
before it becomes an actual conspiracy

515
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:12,880
right because you have conspiracy then

516
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,480
you have conspiracy theory

517
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,960
conspiracy and conspiracy theory today

518
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:20,640
in popular culture

519
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:23,120
is just about

520
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:25,360
any subject

521
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:28,159
or idea

522
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:30,559
you just label it a conspiracy

523
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,440
or or conspiracy light which is you know

524
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:35,760
a conspiracy theory

525
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:37,600
and you know like what is a classic

526
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,200
example we're going to be talking about

527
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:41,360
this tonight um

528
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:44,720
ufos let's take the obvious ufos

529
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:47,840
ufos or uaps are not in themselves a

530
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:51,520
conspiracy or even a conspiracy theory

531
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:53,840
or are they

532
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:55,919
if two or more of them are getting

533
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:58,000
together and plotting crimes against the

534
00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:01,360
people of earth well that's a conspiracy

535
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:03,279
for sure

536
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:06,559
it's hiding the truth about ufos by a

537
00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:09,279
government an agency or corporation

538
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:13,279
that is a crime and in turn a conspiracy

539
00:25:18,430 --> 00:25:16,880
the ideas supporting this

540
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:18,440
would fall under

541
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:20,000
conspiracy

542
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:21,600
theory

543
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:23,840
but today everything is a conspiracy

544
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:25,760
anything that is said no matter what

545
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,400
it's about or how it's presented the

546
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,640
listener will respond right

547
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:32,799
dude that's a conspiracy

548
00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:35,120
you know in fact you know if you follow

549
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:36,559
the news

550
00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:38,480
if you follow social media or just

551
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:40,640
general conversations at a coffee shop

552
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:43,600
everything is now a conspiracy

553
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:47,360
so you know say whatever you want like

554
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:48,720
man

555
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,960
i sure do love pure cane sugar in my

556
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,159
coffee

557
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:53,840
no cream

558
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:01,110
what's the response

559
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:03,279
the response is

560
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:04,000
see

561
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:07,600
what i'm talking about right there

562
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,159
that's another example of the man trying

563
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:12,720
to bring down the milk industry and it's

564
00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:15,120
supported by bill gates

565
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:16,400
it's just like

566
00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:18,159
wait

567
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:19,840
slow down a minute

568
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:21,039
right

569
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:24,480
but you get the idea

570
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:26,000
you do

571
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:28,480
and i love it tonight is quit spirity

572
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:31,200
number nine with jason quit

573
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:34,080
and uh jason is uh

574
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:35,760
getting a little tired of leaning

575
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:37,600
against the wall and putting the

576
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:38,720
pressure on me so i'm going to go ahead

577
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:40,080
and take a commercial break right here

578
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,919
and come back with jason quit i want to

579
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:43,760
remind everybody tomorrow night tony and

580
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:46,480
sheree rathman join us it's a full night

581
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:48,240
of ghost hunting tomorrow and then

582
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:49,679
thursday

583
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:52,080
is another fader night with open lines

584
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,520
all night long i'm your host jimmy

585
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:55,919
church on the game changer and on x

586
00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:58,400
networks race hobbs there's a conspiracy

587
00:27:02,549 --> 00:26:59,360
right there

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683
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on the game changer radio network

684
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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

685
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you're listening to jimmy

686
00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:37,950
what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

687
00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:41,590
matthews radio

688
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:02,310
welcome back fade to block i'm here

689
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,559
jimmy church all right

690
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:07,279
how you doing tonight jason quit is back

691
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:09,919
conspiracy number nine

692
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:11,919
tomorrow night tony and sheree rathman

693
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:13,760
are here it's ghost hunting looking

694
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forward to that they are the absolute

695
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:16,480
very best

696
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:18,080
thursday nights another fader night with

697
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,029
tonight

698
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:25,360
jason quit back for con conspiracy

699
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,880
number nine

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00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:28,559
he's a graduate of the institute of

701
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:31,360
energy wellness and a student of al

702
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:34,399
algonquin shamanism

703
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:36,000
say that five times really fast and it's

704
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,360
been training and working with many

705
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:39,120
teachers and shamans and traditional

706
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:41,200
healers all around the world

707
00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:42,880
he is also the author of forbidden

708
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:45,039
knowledge revelations of

709
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:47,360
a multi-dimensional time traveler and i

710
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:49,919
will never stop saying that the egyptian

711
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:51,440
postures of power

712
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:53,840
which is out now in a new edition we're

713
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:55,360
going to talk about that tonight the

714
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:58,880
yusuf codes sacred geometry mandela's

715
00:33:02,350 --> 00:33:00,960
all that stuff can be found right over

716
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:02,360
at the crystal

717
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:05,039
sun.com and the websites are up in

718
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:06,640
social media and of course over at our

719
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:08,399
website and i would like to welcome back

720
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:09,919
to fade to black although he's been here

721
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:12,480
all night how you doing jason

722
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:14,399
i am doing great

723
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:16,399
um

724
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:18,640
well that now you're not in this reality

725
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,960
you see now wait wait wait you've been

726
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:23,039
ready to go all night and that's the

727
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best you've got

728
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:26,720
say hello to the fade or not i just

729
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,720
realized i was live now it kind of hits

730
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:30,240
you when you're not on the radio for so

731
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,440
long but

732
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,279
hello fader knots thank you for having

733
00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:35,760
me back and i can't believe that we're

734
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:37,919
doing another conspiracy i thought that

735
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,080
we we put an end to it we covered all

736
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:42,240
the conspiracies there were

737
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:43,200
and

738
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:45,039
then

739
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:45,840
coronavirus

740
00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:48,960
[Laughter]

741
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,159
and what happened i was out of a job

742
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:54,240
yeah because

743
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:58,000
every conspiracy came true

744
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:01,279
and i had this fear it's the fear of god

745
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:03,679
that any conspiracy that i would say out

746
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,320
loud on your show right would somehow

747
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,720
manage to come true within the week yeah

748
00:34:12,710 --> 00:34:10,879
manifesting it yeah

749
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:12,720
yeah exactly

750
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:14,879
yeah be careful what you comment be you

751
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:16,720
know forget about be careful what you

752
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:19,679
wish for right be careful about what you

753
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:22,800
talk about and uh i'll tell you we can

754
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,720
start off here actually

755
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:26,720
you and i

756
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:29,359
um and i and i talk about this i used to

757
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:31,200
talk about it a lot because i was

758
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:33,040
shocked when it happened

759
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:36,000
but after um jason and i went through

760
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,320
this crazy conspiracy together

761
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:39,919
and uh

762
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:40,800
and

763
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:42,639
i don't know if i told everybody on the

764
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:45,119
show who i was talking about

765
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:47,520
when i mentioned this conspiracy but i

766
00:34:51,669 --> 00:34:50,320
will now reveal tonight it was jason

767
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:51,679
and

768
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:55,760
happened to me

769
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,800
again this week twice

770
00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:00,960
um about other stuff but this is this is

771
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:04,079
what happened so jason and i

772
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:06,880
like five years ago four years ago

773
00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:09,280
um were talking on the phone

774
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:10,320
about

775
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,000
camera lenses

776
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,640
okay and he probably doesn't even

777
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:16,800
remember the conversation but uh and we

778
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:19,200
did this for a couple of days in a row

779
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:20,480
and uh

780
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:21,920
and i was

781
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:22,960
uh

782
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:26,240
purchasing cameras and looking at lenses

783
00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:27,520
um

784
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:32,079
uh

785
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:35,680
it was a consideration for the future

786
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:36,960
at that time

787
00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:41,920
but it was a conversation

788
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:43,520
about gear

789
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:46,480
and jason and i were talking about uh

790
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,839
the studio stuff and and how to record

791
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,320
and also video came into this and he was

792
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:54,320
shooting a documentary and he got a new

793
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,960
camera and and then he's like jimmy man

794
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:58,800
i got this new lens and i was like oh

795
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:01,200
really yeah and i'll show it to you this

796
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,160
weekend

797
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:04,400
i said okay all right and and so we have

798
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:05,760
this and then

799
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:07,520
but it was just a conversation over the

800
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,920
phone that's all it was it was just a

801
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,280
conversation

802
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:13,680
and it was the next

803
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:15,119
day

804
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:18,400
i'm getting in my facebook feed

805
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,760
ads for these crazy

806
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:23,359
camera lenses

807
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:25,680
right vlog talent for this laughter

808
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:29,280
newest this this i'm like wait a minute

809
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:31,200
i've never

810
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:34,400
ever in my life

811
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:38,960
did a web search for a camera

812
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,760
it's lens that would be the last thing

813
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,720
that i would do a a search for

814
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:47,040
and meanwhile

815
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:48,880
at this time

816
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:50,800
going on at the same time

817
00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:53,920
is uh you know zuckerberg doing his

818
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:55,119
hearings

819
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:58,800
uh with congress and capitol hill and i

820
00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,920
heard

821
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,400
one of the representatives go you know

822
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:04,240
just today one of my one of my

823
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:05,359
assistants

824
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,520
said you know this conversation we were

825
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:09,359
having it popped up in my facebook feed

826
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:11,440
and i know i've never searched and and

827
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:13,119
they're listening to us and they said

828
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:15,119
mark zuckerberg are you listening to

829
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:17,040
people stuff so you can

830
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:19,119
have you know run advertising into their

831
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:23,119
no we don't do that and you know what bs

832
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:26,160
jason do you remember that conversation

833
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,480
you and i had about lenses

834
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:30,720
yes of course i do and

835
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:34,079
i remember uh what happened afterwards

836
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,720
uh just as you described it and i

837
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:38,160
completely believe that they first of

838
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:40,960
all they are listening yes

839
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:43,920
and uh they also um see what you're

840
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:46,320
typing and what you're searching as well

841
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:49,119
so you know it's collecting this data

842
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:50,800
and i remember

843
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:53,119
uh it was on your show and i

844
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:55,200
it made me laugh so hard that i had to

845
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:57,200
post it on twitter that

846
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:01,440
um i told the the mr peanut story

847
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:03,200
which is um

848
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:06,320
the siding yes yeah the mr peanut site

849
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:08,240
right which is like uh my friend was

850
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:09,599
jogging

851
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,119
he doesn't believe in ufos at all and he

852
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,760
saw this balloon that was a mr peanut

853
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,359
balloon but he didn't know it was a mr

854
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,040
peanut butter

855
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,280
anyways mufon got involved and it was

856
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,359
this whole thing that took weeks of

857
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,520
investigation

858
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:25,440
and it turned out to be a mr peanut

859
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,560
balloon

860
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:28,880
anyways i told that story on your show

861
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:30,880
and the next day i go into twitter and

862
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:33,520
it's like all my ads for twitter is like

863
00:38:36,870 --> 00:38:35,210
mr peanut

864
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:36,880
[Laughter]

865
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:38,640
but they're not listening they're not

866
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:40,320
listening yeah they're not listening

867
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:41,680
they're not listening

868
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:44,079
and and i had it uh

869
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:46,960
happen this week where um immediately

870
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:49,440
after i had a a couple of phone

871
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:50,880
conversations

872
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:52,960
about

873
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,400
products

874
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:56,000
and

875
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,680
if i go into it okay all right

876
00:39:03,190 --> 00:39:01,520
one was

877
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,200
salsa

878
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:06,000
the kind you eat not the music right

879
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:08,160
and and i'm just it's just a

880
00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:10,000
conversation i'm on my i got to get some

881
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:12,800
salsa and and and and some other stuff

882
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:15,520
and um you know blah blah blah i've got

883
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:17,280
salsa ads

884
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:19,599
in my news feed that afternoon

885
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:21,920
salsa ads

886
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:22,960
it's like

887
00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:23,760
no

888
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:24,800
i

889
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:26,240
you know and

890
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:30,160
and uh now i just i just kind of laugh

891
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:32,800
because it's become such a normal thing

892
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:34,480
to go through right i don't think

893
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:37,760
anybody's surprised anymore jason or

894
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,280
and and i don't think people mind

895
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:43,040
but you know

896
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:44,720
now when i see friends and let's say

897
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:46,320
they leave their cell phone in the room

898
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,480
and you know they go to the washroom i

899
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:50,160
take their cell phone

900
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,320
and i just say

901
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:54,960
really ridiculous products yeah into the

902
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:56,720
phone yeah

903
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,599
when they go into their phone they will

904
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,520
see some great things no what you do is

905
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:03,359
you pick up the phone and you go

906
00:40:08,829 --> 00:40:05,730
how do you make a molotov cocktail

907
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:08,839
[Laughter]

908
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:12,000
god yeah that's what you do

909
00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:14,640
how do you rob a bank how do you hide a

910
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:15,140
body

911
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:18,240
[Laughter]

912
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:19,680
you know

913
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:22,000
it's not even a joke anymore it's not

914
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:23,440
because it's not what are they what are

915
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:27,040
they passing in canada bill c-10 which

916
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:28,079
is

917
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,880
um you can get charged for a

918
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:32,880
crime on the internet

919
00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:34,480
by just

920
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:36,800
thinking about doing something or

921
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,359
posting something you're not supposed to

922
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,280
you know we have this like it's crazy

923
00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:43,119
like they're really talking about these

924
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:45,839
things like minority report right where

925
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,599
it's like they can come and seize things

926
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:52,000
or arrest you or put you under suspicion

927
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,560
if they think that you're you're able or

928
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:56,480
capable of thinking of that stuff did

929
00:41:03,030 --> 00:40:59,599
you see the movie don't look up

930
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:03,040
that movie was amazing amazing amazing

931
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:05,839
and so it's it's the dude right the

932
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:09,119
billionaire i forget i forget his name

933
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:12,000
um brilliantly played too by the way but

934
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:15,680
he when he says he says a line

935
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:19,280
yeah in there um that was just so

936
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,400
brilliant

937
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:23,040
but he goes i'm paraphrasing here if

938
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:25,040
i've got the numbers wrong but he's like

939
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:26,800
we've got 10

940
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:31,040
18 billion data points on you

941
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,079
right

942
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:35,040
and more are being added every day

943
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:38,079
i know more about your future than you

944
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,119
do in fact i know how you're going to

945
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:43,520
die right

946
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,760
and it was like you know you know and

947
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:47,520
it's one of those throwaway lines that

948
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,680
you just kind of laugh about you know at

949
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,200
that moment

950
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:54,079
but it's so true

951
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:56,960
it is i mean it's so true

952
00:42:02,069 --> 00:41:59,680
18 billion data points

953
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:02,079
i you know i always tell people like

954
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:04,000
people are always trying to figure out

955
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,319
you know what i'm thinking and i keep

956
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:08,640
telling them i'm like listen

957
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:11,359
only google analytics knows what i'm

958
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:13,599
thinking you have no idea

959
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:16,480
that's a you know what honestly

960
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:17,440
um

961
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:18,240
uh

962
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:20,720
if we think about

963
00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:24,640
how google analytics and their ability

964
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:27,119
to monitor

965
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:29,040
what day of the month

966
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,000
in on average over the year that you get

967
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:33,920
in your car and you drive to the store

968
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:36,480
they know where you are they know what

969
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,640
store you're going into

970
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:40,880
now

971
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:42,319
you're swiping a credit card you're

972
00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:43,680
doing a purchase

973
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,400
right so now that they uh i'm saying

974
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:48,880
allegedly right

975
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:50,960
you would assume

976
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:53,440
they know how often you buy eggs milk

977
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:55,760
deodorant and underwear

978
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,560
right

979
00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,119
and and collectively this is this is

980
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:01,599
averaged out over time and so

981
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:03,280
it's that certain day of the month and

982
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,280
you're in your car they know where you

983
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,280
are going and what you are going to buy

984
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:09,839
before you buy it

985
00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:12,560
and that's a fact that's a fact have you

986
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:14,160
seen the video

987
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,800
of the uh shopping and walmart in the

988
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:18,800
metaverse yes

989
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,839
okay

990
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:21,599
that thing

991
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:25,599
just freaked me out but it's real though

992
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,440
it's real

993
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:29,520
you know here here's the freaky thing

994
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,079
most people never caught this right is

995
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:35,359
they were in the walmart okay in the

996
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:36,400
meta

997
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:39,200
and they go to let's say grab some milk

998
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:40,560
off the shelf

999
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:42,640
and a voice comes up on the screen and

1000
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:43,599
says

1001
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:45,599
it shows that you already have milk in

1002
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:47,119
the fridge

1003
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:49,359
and they go oh and they put it back yes

1004
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:52,880
that's real have you and what i mean by

1005
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,960
that is that's in meta right but let me

1006
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:56,960
tell you how it's real

1007
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,040
have you ever been at a supermarket

1008
00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:03,040
where they've got uh they're all over

1009
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:05,359
the place those print out coupon

1010
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,560
machines

1011
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,040
and your butt is walking down the aisle

1012
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,040
and that thing goes this is

1013
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:13,440
right and prints out a coupon as you

1014
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:16,319
know for you it's you you're walking by

1015
00:44:21,510 --> 00:44:17,920
it's printing out because you're there

1016
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:21,520
why because of this and it knows

1017
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:24,160
the proximity of where you are in that

1018
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:27,200
island you are approaching that and it

1019
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:28,640
prints out

1020
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:29,440
uh

1021
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:33,040
oh it's a coupon for nutter butters

1022
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:34,880
now how

1023
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,000
you know whatever it is it's not a

1024
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:38,160
coupon for for

1025
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,760
feminine napkins right for me

1026
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,319
you know it's not a coupon for you know

1027
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:46,240
something that you know uh

1028
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:49,040
for tofu something that i would never

1029
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:52,960
buy but nutter butters

1030
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:54,079
right

1031
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,640
it's it's like it's crazy you know how

1032
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:58,800
does it know my favorite cookie

1033
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:00,720
what are the odds of that

1034
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:03,280
but this is where the you know the

1035
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:06,800
conspiracy people like myself obviously

1036
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:09,520
we we immediately go to this

1037
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:10,400
where

1038
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,240
the money then becomes more of a coupon

1039
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:16,880
than actual money and what i mean by

1040
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:17,760
that

1041
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,640
is let's say you jimmy in the future go

1042
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:22,400
to your butcher shop and you're like i'm

1043
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,040
having people over i'm gonna make my

1044
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,119
famous kebabs right right

1045
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,240
you go and you you go to buy that meat

1046
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:32,480
and it won't let you check out

1047
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:34,079
you're like why can't i buy this meat

1048
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,079
and they say well you're over your quota

1049
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:38,960
you already had a barbecue last week

1050
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:40,000
you're like yeah but i'm having my

1051
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:42,319
friends over today they're like nope

1052
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:44,880
you can't use your money

1053
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:47,280
to buy this food because

1054
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:49,200
we're going to give you a different

1055
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:51,200
credit score

1056
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:53,520
you know

1057
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,480
because

1058
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,880
you're wasting too much carbon in the

1059
00:46:02,150 --> 00:45:58,720
world and you're going over your limits

1060
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:05,030
you've exceeded your methane limit

1061
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:06,400
yes

1062
00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:08,880
you've exceeded your methane and

1063
00:46:13,829 --> 00:46:11,520
and if if mark zuckerberg was in the

1064
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:13,839
room with us right now he wouldn't be

1065
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,400
able to hide his smile no no no not at

1066
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:18,720
all not at all you know what i did

1067
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:21,599
um and there are certain things that are

1068
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:24,000
weird with uh coincidences

1069
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:28,000
um and on all that i love may may the

1070
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:30,640
universe strike me dead with a bolt of

1071
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,760
lightning if i'm lying

1072
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:35,359
two nights ago

1073
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:38,560
i watched 1984

1074
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,760
twice

1075
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:41,280
back to back

1076
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:44,880
right i got to the end and i started it

1077
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:46,000
over

1078
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:49,680
i did four hours of 1984

1079
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:52,720
and what an incredible movie

1080
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:57,200
and it the more that uh i watched it

1081
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:00,960
um and and watch 1984 and don't look up

1082
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:02,560
back to back because actually they're

1083
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:04,160
the same movie if you think about it but

1084
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:05,599
that being said

1085
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,200
um

1086
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:09,280
you can't escape

1087
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:12,160
that that book was written

1088
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:15,440
in 1938 or whatever you know and aldous

1089
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:18,240
huxley and george orwell and hanging out

1090
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:19,760
and teacher and student and everything

1091
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,319
that went down but they had a vision

1092
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,960
uh those two guys of of what the future

1093
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:26,720
uh probably

1094
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:28,160
would look like

1095
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:31,680
but the book is so br brilliantly

1096
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:32,559
written

1097
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:34,000
and the movie

1098
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,079
is pretty spot on

1099
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:38,400
um uh to the book

1100
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:40,640
it it doesn't stray

1101
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:42,800
but watch the movie

1102
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:44,400
watch the movie and i did it the other

1103
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,640
night you know and and thinking about

1104
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:48,640
where we are today

1105
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:51,520
that movie will freak you out it's a

1106
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:54,480
it's it's a really good uh brush up

1107
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:57,200
on the visionaries that we ignored in

1108
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:59,839
the past and how we got here today and

1109
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:01,920
we're living it it's incredible it's an

1110
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:03,200
incredible movie

1111
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:07,839
brave new world yes 1984. yep and

1112
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:09,920
uh they're i wish i would save these

1113
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:12,079
news articles but i believe it's in

1114
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:13,359
america

1115
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,720
um they're actually taking 1984 off the

1116
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:18,400
reading list

1117
00:48:22,549 --> 00:48:20,559
um for high schools

1118
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:22,559
because they're if they said it could

1119
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:25,680
cause uh some damage to the person

1120
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,839
that's a conspiracy that you're making

1121
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:29,359
that up you're just i'm not making that

1122
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:31,920
up somebody google it and post it on

1123
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:34,800
twitter i guarantee you i i swear it's

1124
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:36,480
not a dream

1125
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:39,839
maybe i have conspiratorial dreams

1126
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,400
but i'm thinking i did read that article

1127
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,960
that they wanted to ban that book or put

1128
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:47,520
a warning label on it that it could be

1129
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:49,920
mentally unstable for you because

1130
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:51,200
reading that

1131
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,480
you're going to see that you're actually

1132
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,480
living in those times

1133
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:56,880
and don't freak out

1134
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:00,720
well it was it was removed from kindle

1135
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:02,559
in 2009

1136
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:04,160
that's uh

1137
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,960
that's that's pretty bizarre

1138
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:08,319
uh

1139
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,000
abandoned library 2017.

1140
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:14,400
uh okay some of these articles go back

1141
00:49:20,470 --> 00:49:16,880
september 30 2020

1142
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:20,480
um uh 2018. so

1143
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:22,480
yeah this was news to me

1144
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:25,680
uh september 27th they're trying to do

1145
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,960
it okay

1146
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,160
um

1147
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,480
texas parents here 50 books texas

1148
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,880
parents don't want their parents they're

1149
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:35,119
just their kids to read

1150
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:38,480
um uh i grew up i i

1151
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:40,559
when i was in high school they said

1152
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:42,839
jason what books do you want to read for

1153
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:45,040
your uh you know you have to write your

1154
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:46,800
essays in english class and you have to

1155
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:48,960
show the books that you're reading

1156
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:52,800
uh what did i read i read naked lunch

1157
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:55,119
yes and uh

1158
00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:59,040
anything hunter thompson yes you know

1159
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:00,800
and that's what i grew up on is all

1160
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:03,920
these weird and crazy things

1161
00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:05,359
and obviously you know you got the brave

1162
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:08,960
new world and you got 1984. but

1163
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,000
it's like

1164
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:12,400
that's what made me weird

1165
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:15,520
and kids need to be weird again

1166
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:17,359
i used to have this i used to have this

1167
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:19,040
friend in high school i don't know if

1168
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:21,200
he's still around uh his name was shawn

1169
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,440
matross this is down in panama and sean

1170
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,200
now all of this you know i wanted to be

1171
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:29,280
a rock star or my other friend wanted to

1172
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,240
do this or do that sean wanted to be

1173
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:34,319
an archaeologist

1174
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:35,920
that's that's his thing man he was in

1175
00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:37,359
the bones and

1176
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:40,800
and in history and and and it's just

1177
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:42,880
just great that was his thing

1178
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:44,800
he smoked weed like nobody's business

1179
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:48,240
and he loved uh rock and roll

1180
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:50,000
um and i just thought he was the hippest

1181
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:52,319
dude well anyway i i sneak up to him and

1182
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:54,160
i see him reading this book for a couple

1183
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:55,520
of days

1184
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:56,880
and i come up and i go so what you

1185
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:58,800
reading man you know i want to be

1186
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,040
intelligent like you sean because i'm

1187
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:03,599
reading fear and loathing in las vegas

1188
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:05,839
right by hunter s thompson

1189
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,160
and so he gave me that book after he was

1190
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:10,559
done with it and then it was after that

1191
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:12,240
i was like so what are you reading man

1192
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:13,440
uh

1193
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:16,400
naked lunch really i'm not making this

1194
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,640
up i still have copies of both books

1195
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:20,960
right i read naked lunch all the time

1196
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:23,839
um and then i'm i'm you know it's like a

1197
00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:25,680
week later i've got the stack of books

1198
00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:28,000
you know as he's done said so what are

1199
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:30,960
you reading now i'm reading animal farm

1200
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,880
really okay

1201
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,319
all right what are you reading now i'm

1202
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:36,240
reading 1984.

1203
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:37,200
really

1204
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:39,520
it's sean matrows man if you're out

1205
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:42,960
there brother you know that guy did more

1206
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:45,599
and he was like 15 years old

1207
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:48,640
you know and just absolutely

1208
00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:52,079
changed my direction in life

1209
00:51:55,349 --> 00:51:53,040
with this

1210
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:55,359
and i don't know somebody was giving him

1211
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:57,119
the books you know that's the other

1212
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,800
thing you know where was he getting

1213
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:00,480
animal farm

1214
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,160
1984

1215
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:04,400
yeah i i just pray

1216
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,680
because i don't know what the kids are

1217
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:06,960
reading these days i hope they're

1218
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:09,119
reading jason quit that's that's all i

1219
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:10,559
care about

1220
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:11,599
but

1221
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:14,319
when i was growing up it's like those

1222
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,599
are the books

1223
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:17,359
you know you see movies yeah movies are

1224
00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:18,800
cool people like the matrix and all

1225
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:20,960
these things but books

1226
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:23,359
changed you like

1227
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,880
they really made a difference in your

1228
00:52:29,030 --> 00:52:26,960
life and you became part of that kind of

1229
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:29,040
universe of that book to really

1230
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:32,000
understand it and reread it

1231
00:52:35,349 --> 00:52:33,680
so i i don't know what the kids are

1232
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:35,359
doing these days but i really hope

1233
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:37,520
they're reading cool books like that

1234
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:41,920
the um uh the the page turning

1235
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:43,040
there's a

1236
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:47,599
the

1237
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:51,839
about that i hope that kids today can go

1238
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:53,920
back and experience this it's a lot like

1239
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:55,920
an album you know when you're dropping

1240
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:57,599
the needle you know you're going through

1241
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:00,319
the ceremony you're not just pulling up

1242
00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,440
an mp3 you know you know on your your

1243
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,000
apple music playlist

1244
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:08,559
that's not a ceremony there's a ceremony

1245
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:09,760
of taking

1246
00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:12,480
taking out an album out of its album

1247
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,440
sleeve and placing it down and and

1248
00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:17,280
you know wiping it the dust down and

1249
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,200
putting the needle down and there was

1250
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,760
this ceremony and it's the same thing

1251
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:23,280
with the book

1252
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:26,240
you know your your your book marker the

1253
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:29,280
the art of how you turn a page

1254
00:53:34,470 --> 00:53:31,920
and and and how you're absorbing and

1255
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:34,480
remembering what's on the the reverse of

1256
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:36,800
that page and you're continuing the flow

1257
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:37,440
and

1258
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:42,960
a ceremony taking a book off the shelf

1259
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:45,520
the smell you know the smell of a book

1260
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,760
when you open it these things are all a

1261
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,680
part of the ceremony that are lost in

1262
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:51,440
the digital world it's

1263
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:55,200
you know have you ever smelled an album

1264
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:57,599
right right you know what i'm talking

1265
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,160
about right that vinyl the smell that's

1266
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:01,920
part of the ceremony you don't get that

1267
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:05,520
from an mp3 file mp3 file doesn't smell

1268
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:08,720
kids will never understand owing money

1269
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:16,470
they don't know that

1270
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:18,470
three times i did that man and got away

1271
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:21,599
with it see here's the thing um yeah is

1272
00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:24,000
statute of limitations out on that am i

1273
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:25,520
okay to

1274
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:28,000
to uh

1275
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:29,920
could you imagine getting a letter today

1276
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:32,720
yeah i know the conspiracy of an entire

1277
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:35,040
house of roommates okay this week man

1278
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:36,880
let's all do columbia house at the same

1279
00:54:42,150 --> 00:54:39,359
time and let's make sure that we don't

1280
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,160
get we don't double up let's all get

1281
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:44,400
right

1282
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:46,240
make sure nobody orders the same thing

1283
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:47,440
twice

1284
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:50,079
but um and that would be a conspiracy

1285
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:51,119
right there

1286
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:54,319
um how is it uh as we uh head into the

1287
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,760
break

1288
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:57,839
how is it that

1289
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:00,079
um we have

1290
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,480
become a conspiracy world so quickly

1291
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:06,960
where conspiracies are now

1292
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:09,839
uh conspiracy is truly the new normal

1293
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,480
and then you'll hear media

1294
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,559
not only talk about these conspiracies

1295
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:16,319
but then deny that they're even talking

1296
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:18,640
about the conspiracy right

1297
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:21,119
it's weird um how did we get here jason

1298
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:22,640
so quick

1299
00:55:27,309 --> 00:55:24,880
i would say

1300
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,319
over many years of

1301
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:29,119
demoralization of

1302
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:30,720
reality

1303
00:55:39,510 --> 00:55:38,150
let's say we watch the news we can see a

1304
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:39,520
story

1305
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:41,440
but if we're living in the place where

1306
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:43,119
that story happened

1307
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,880
and we've seen it and lived it with our

1308
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:46,319
own eyes

1309
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,480
we watch the news and we're like what

1310
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,000
they're saying

1311
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:52,319
is completely false

1312
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:54,880
to our experience here why are they

1313
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:57,599
framing that news story there in that

1314
00:56:03,190 --> 00:55:59,520
point of view

1315
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,200
and i feel like in this day and age

1316
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,760
people are very upset that they're not

1317
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:07,680
receiving the truth or they feel like

1318
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:09,359
they're being lied to

1319
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:12,720
constantly

1320
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:16,240
they're being lied to by news stories

1321
00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:17,599
you know most people don't understand

1322
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:19,920
how media and news works

1323
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:21,359
it doesn't have to be truthful to be on

1324
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:23,839
the news and in fact in the us and

1325
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:25,119
canada

1326
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:26,640
it is legal

1327
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:27,359
to

1328
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:32,160
and in fact in canada we just learned

1329
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:33,359
that

1330
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:36,319
the the military used the media during

1331
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:38,079
coronavirus

1332
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:39,440
to test

1333
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,760
disinformation on the public

1334
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:43,280
and that was a news article that came

1335
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:45,119
out saying that they

1336
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:47,440
were doing that actively during the

1337
00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:49,680
coronavirus here in canada

1338
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:50,480
so

1339
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:52,000
it comes from this general sense of

1340
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:55,680
mistrust now how do you okay okay so

1341
00:57:01,910 --> 00:56:59,359
let me stop you right there yes how what

1342
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:01,920
what side of the news story do you

1343
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:03,359
believe now

1344
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:05,599
because if you're not trusting the media

1345
00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:09,040
and then a new story breaks out saying

1346
00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:13,280
this this paradoxical catch-22

1347
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:14,640
that

1348
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,000
the

1349
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:18,000
you've also been tested

1350
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:21,599
uh on on media information

1351
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:24,799
now that do you believe that too or is

1352
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:27,200
that in of itself

1353
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:29,839
disinformation and misinformation right

1354
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:31,280
how do you pick and choose what to

1355
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:32,400
believe

1356
00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:35,520
i i think it's very difficult you know

1357
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:37,760
and uh i used to joke about this with

1358
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:40,880
friends like 20 years ago where it's

1359
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:43,359
like one day um

1360
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:45,520
the newspaper will say

1361
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:48,799
vitamin c like the new cure right

1362
00:57:53,190 --> 00:57:50,880
and then like a week later the same

1363
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:53,200
place in the newspaper it says

1364
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:56,160
vitamin c does nothing yes i know yeah i

1365
00:58:01,990 --> 00:57:58,240
actually remember when that happened

1366
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:02,000
okay so that actually happened but okay

1367
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:04,799
so to take this to the next level though

1368
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:08,319
so the media suddenly chooses right i i

1369
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:09,920
can't imagine this happening but let's

1370
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:10,799
say

1371
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:13,839
cnn msnbc fox you know comes out with

1372
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,880
the lead story the media has been lying

1373
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:17,920
to you

1374
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:21,040
we here at fox news have been lying to

1375
00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:24,079
you well

1376
00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:25,200
what do you mean i thought you were

1377
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:26,480
telling the truth before now you're

1378
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:28,480
telling the truth now

1379
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:30,799
which one is the truth or

1380
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:33,760
by you saying that you were lying is a

1381
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:34,720
lie

1382
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:37,520
to get us more twisted up and now we

1383
00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:40,720
don't know what to believe this or that

1384
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:43,119
and that would be a pretty effective

1385
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:45,040
thing to do if you think about it even

1386
00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:47,839
if it was the truth

1387
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:50,319
i would say this um and this is what i

1388
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:52,640
learned you know being stuck at home for

1389
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:54,720
the coronavirus is that

1390
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:56,000
um

1391
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:57,599
we could be watching the news for

1392
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,319
example um the truck rally which

1393
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:02,319
happened in my backyard you know i'm in

1394
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:05,520
ontario here and

1395
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:08,079
i i know people that have live streams

1396
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:09,760
from ottawa

1397
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:12,160
and they literally are walking down the

1398
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:14,079
street eight hours a day

1399
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:15,920
live streaming talking to everybody on

1400
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:17,280
the street

1401
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:19,839
you know so i can sit in my home and i

1402
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:22,000
could literally be right there

1403
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:24,000
with the people and see what's going on

1404
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:26,400
with my own eyes

1405
00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:28,160
and then i could turn on the news and

1406
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,839
they're like this is happening this is

1407
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:31,680
happening this is happening

1408
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:33,760
and i'm watching reality in front of me

1409
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:36,480
and saying no that's not going on at all

1410
00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:39,040
like what are you saying to me right and

1411
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:41,359
and because of that complete split of

1412
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:44,000
reality now they're trying to introduce

1413
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,040
new laws to basically censor

1414
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:49,680
anything that's not officially

1415
00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:53,599
promoted by let's say the government or

1416
00:59:57,670 --> 00:59:55,119
you know they could say okay that's

1417
00:59:59,910 --> 00:59:57,680
misinformation when it's the truth and

1418
01:00:02,390 --> 00:59:59,920
they can just block that so you can't

1419
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:02,400
see it and you just have to look at what

1420
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:03,760
they're saying to you and i think that

1421
01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:04,720
is

1422
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,400
i think going to be the biggest crime of

1423
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:08,640
the century is trying to get rid of free

1424
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and just kind of focus us into what we

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need or what they want us to hear yeah

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well i i've got to take a break and

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we're about to blow right through that

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so let's get that in this is fade to

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black i'm going to be sure tonight jason

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quit is with us it is conspiracy number

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nine when we come back we're gonna jump

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straight into it

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all right so that's the warm-up that's

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the slow pitch

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when we come back it's quick spirit

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scene number nine i'm your host jimmy

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church on the nx and game changer

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network

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jimmy church and fade to black on the

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01:04:37,990 --> 01:04:36,160
hi this is ray sobs here repping the

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friend jimmy church fade to black

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we're the honey brothers

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and you're listening to jimmy church a

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this is jimmy churchill fade to black

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to fade to black with jimmy church who

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this is micah hanks of the ghrelian

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report and you're listening to jimmy

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church on fade to black

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01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:39,520
[Applause]

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01:06:00,549 --> 01:05:57,829
welcome back fade to black i'm real to

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01:06:05,670 --> 01:06:02,870
all right tonight conspiracy number nine

1544
01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:05,680
jason quinn is here

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01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:08,480
very excited everything today we live in

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01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:10,640
a conspiracy

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01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:11,910
i mean we're

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[Music]

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01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:15,520
we're living in one

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01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:17,760
and uh let's kick things off tonight

1551
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:19,200
jason we um

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01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:20,240
uh

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01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,920
about tonight and and some of the things

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01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:27,680
we would like to cover

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01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:30,160
and uh i'm going to

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01:06:32,870 --> 01:06:31,119
um

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01:06:36,069 --> 01:06:32,880
hand things over to you where do you

1558
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:38,390
it's interesting because

1559
01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:40,079
you know we've been we haven't done this

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01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:41,599
show in at least

1561
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:43,680
it's almost two years right

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01:06:47,910 --> 01:06:45,520
and you know i'm really thinking about

1563
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:47,920
this and we i wanted to get into uh

1564
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:50,799
conspiracy theories of uh

1565
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:53,119
you know ufos because that's my bread

1566
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:55,520
and butter and you know we we love ufo

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01:07:01,910 --> 01:06:57,440
conspiracies

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01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:01,920
and um i i've been down some crazy

1569
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,880
rabbit holes as people will know

1570
01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:06,480
and some of the rabbit holes we've been

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01:07:11,829 --> 01:07:09,200
down uh have to do with you know where

1572
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:11,839
this information comes from like where

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01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:14,480
does the term solar warden come from for

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01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:15,520
example

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01:07:19,910 --> 01:07:18,160
or the secret space program

1576
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,920
and

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you know i've

1578
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:24,319
it it's very difficult for people to put

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01:07:28,470 --> 01:07:26,240
the pieces together because there's so

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01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:28,480
many conflicting stories or so many

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01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:30,319
characters out there

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01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:33,440
and the history is vast and long and

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01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:35,280
it's been going on

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01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:36,160
for

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i would say over a hundred years

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01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:40,000
in

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uh and

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01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:48,000
i wanted to explain some newer

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01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:50,880
conspiracies but i thought like

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01:07:55,029 --> 01:07:52,559
if i just talk about that no one's

1591
01:07:58,069 --> 01:07:55,039
really gonna understand how they came to

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01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:58,079
be so i really wanted to give kind of

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01:08:00,789 --> 01:07:59,359
like a

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coal notes

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01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:03,599
overview because we can probably do a

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01:08:08,309 --> 01:08:05,200
a good couple months of back-to-back

1597
01:08:11,349 --> 01:08:08,319
shows of just going through the history

1598
01:08:13,029 --> 01:08:11,359
of the ufo culture

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and

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i just wanted to kind of go

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01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:17,600
to a point in history and then build off

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01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:20,239
of that and i really wanted to start

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01:08:24,470 --> 01:08:22,880
with the invention of the radio

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01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:24,480
because that's where

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01:08:28,789 --> 01:08:27,440
a lot of this stuff kicked off and this

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01:08:31,829 --> 01:08:28,799
takes us back

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01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:31,839
right to italy in 1896.

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01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:34,719
so you got uh marconi from italy he

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creates the radio wave he sends and

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01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:39,920
receives the first radio signals right

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01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:41,520
and then over here

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01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:43,759
up in hamilton

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01:08:47,349 --> 01:08:44,960
new york

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01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:47,359
ontario you know we have niagara falls

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01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:50,319
here we have nikola tesla

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01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:55,040
and in 1898 at the electrical exhibition

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01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:56,960
he unveiled a remote-controlled

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miniature boat

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01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:00,319
and he

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uh controlled this through the use of

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radio waves

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01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,239
and this was huge this was a huge jump

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01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:10,799
in technology back then

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01:09:15,749 --> 01:09:13,600
and from this

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01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:15,759
being remote controlled using radio

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01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:18,839
waves or sending a signal using a radio

1627
01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:23,279
wave nikola tesla already back in you

1628
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:26,719
know 1898 was already talking about how

1629
01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:27,920
the future

1630
01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:30,719
would be controlled wirelessly

1631
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:31,520
how

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01:09:36,309 --> 01:09:34,480
in the future we would have robots who

1633
01:09:37,749 --> 01:09:36,319
would take over control of all our

1634
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:37,759
labors

1635
01:09:41,110 --> 01:09:40,400
and that they would be automated

1636
01:09:43,590 --> 01:09:41,120
by

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01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:43,600
automated remotely using

1638
01:09:48,990 --> 01:09:46,400
frequencies in the air radio waves so he

1639
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:49,000
was already on this type of thought over

1640
01:09:57,590 --> 01:09:54,800
120 years ago 124 years ago unbelievable

1641
01:09:59,110 --> 01:09:57,600
and then he starts experimenting with

1642
01:10:01,510 --> 01:09:59,120
radio waves

1643
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:01,520
and he's he makes these radio receivers

1644
01:10:05,990 --> 01:10:04,239
so he can listen to the radio signals

1645
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:06,000
coming in and he points

1646
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:07,920
the radio receivers

1647
01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:10,320
to different planets in our solar system

1648
01:10:13,990 --> 01:10:11,360
right

1649
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:14,000
and in 1901

1650
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:18,480
nikola tesla makes headline news

1651
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:20,000
he's saying

1652
01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:22,400
he heard or he claims

1653
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:25,040
to be listening into

1654
01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:28,400
communications of other worldly beings

1655
01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:30,320
and he claimed he can listen to them on

1656
01:10:35,110 --> 01:10:32,320
the radio and the signals were coming

1657
01:10:37,669 --> 01:10:35,120
from the planet mars that's right

1658
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:37,679
so in 1901

1659
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:40,320
he's already making claims and newspaper

1660
01:10:44,709 --> 01:10:42,800
articles telling people that he is

1661
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,719
receiving messages

1662
01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:46,719
from mars

1663
01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:48,800
19 years later

1664
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:52,080
marconi the inventor of radio he does

1665
01:10:56,149 --> 01:10:54,000
the same thing he takes his

1666
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:56,159
his receivers and he points them out

1667
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,000
into the sky is pointing them in

1668
01:11:01,110 --> 01:11:00,320
different directions in the cosmos and

1669
01:11:10,630 --> 01:11:01,120
he

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01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:10,640
understand it

1671
01:11:14,310 --> 01:11:12,800
but he's receiving communications from

1672
01:11:17,030 --> 01:11:14,320
other planets

1673
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:17,040
is specifically mars

1674
01:11:21,669 --> 01:11:18,960
all right

1675
01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:21,679
and this blew the mind of none other

1676
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:23,600
than thomas edison

1677
01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:26,480
all right and thomas edison he really

1678
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:28,320
believed this stuff

1679
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:29,520
and he

1680
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:32,560
was very public and stated that

1681
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:34,080
um by

1682
01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:36,400
listening to these radio waves coming in

1683
01:11:41,830 --> 01:11:38,239
from outer space

1684
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:41,840
that that was the way that other space

1685
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,640
beings aliens from other worlds

1686
01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:47,280
would be able to signal us to tell us

1687
01:11:52,149 --> 01:11:49,679
that they are there in outer space

1688
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:52,159
at the same time i'm just going to jump

1689
01:11:56,149 --> 01:11:54,480
in and i don't want to uh

1690
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:56,159
interrupt your flow but at the same time

1691
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:58,400
you know you had uh amateur radio

1692
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:01,120
operators now all around the world uh

1693
01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:03,920
jumping in on this and and listening and

1694
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:06,239
in oslo norway

1695
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:11,199
um in uh 1933 i believe

1696
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:12,000
uh

1697
01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:13,920
radio signals were picked up from the

1698
01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:16,239
cosmos and recorded

1699
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:20,400
and uh this was uh also you know pretty

1700
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:22,640
big news and

1701
01:12:28,709 --> 01:12:26,320
those recordings uh were decoded

1702
01:12:31,990 --> 01:12:28,719
in 1975

1703
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:32,000
and and had a message in there um now

1704
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:33,760
i'm going to go back to

1705
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:38,159
uh your timeline here but this was big

1706
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:40,800
news tesla marconi

1707
01:12:47,350 --> 01:12:44,640
edison newspapers the media were all

1708
01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:47,360
talking about signals from space

1709
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:49,520
predating everything in the modern ufo

1710
01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:50,480
era

1711
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:54,560
and and also which as this is going down

1712
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:57,280
um these signals were recorded uh in

1713
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:00,400
oslo norway okay so please continue

1714
01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:03,040
so what did they do they started to

1715
01:13:07,590 --> 01:13:05,600
build radio telescopes

1716
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:07,600
all around the world

1717
01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:09,600
and they would point them to the sky to

1718
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:13,280
listen because they believed contact

1719
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:15,520
was around the corner because of the

1720
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:18,960
invention of the radio

1721
01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:19,920
modern

1722
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:23,199
ufologists don't talk about this

1723
01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:23,920
but

1724
01:13:27,430 --> 01:13:26,080
this is what was going on over a hundred

1725
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:27,440
years ago

1726
01:13:30,830 --> 01:13:29,280
that they were they

1727
01:13:33,669 --> 01:13:30,840
they were so

1728
01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:33,679
excited to be able to reach the stars

1729
01:13:39,030 --> 01:13:35,679
using radio waves

1730
01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:39,040
and another interesting fact

1731
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:42,239
which it really does blow my mind

1732
01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:43,360
was

1733
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:48,719
invented back in uh

1734
01:14:03,270 --> 01:13:59,750
h.g wells remember that name i do

1735
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:03,280
wells writes a very famous book called

1736
01:14:10,229 --> 01:14:05,360
war of the worlds

1737
01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:10,239
between 19 between 1895 and 1897.

1738
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:12,320
so he writes a book

1739
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:14,560
a science fiction book at that exact

1740
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:16,880
time they invent radio waves about the

1741
01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:19,679
earth being invaded by extraterrestrial

1742
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:21,679
martians

1743
01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:23,280
okay

1744
01:14:26,830 --> 01:14:24,560
and you know

1745
01:14:29,669 --> 01:14:26,840
the book was like underground

1746
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:29,679
obviously until

1747
01:14:34,390 --> 01:14:31,920
october 30th

1748
01:14:37,510 --> 01:14:34,400
1938

1749
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:37,520
which is a very famous

1750
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,880
radio show so using the radio as a means

1751
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:42,560
of communication so we're all we're just

1752
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:44,960
talking radio here right

1753
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:47,920
orson welles airs the famous war of the

1754
01:14:53,110 --> 01:14:51,360
worlds over the radio

1755
01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:53,120
and he

1756
01:14:58,870 --> 01:14:56,080
causes such a panic

1757
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:58,880
that people are you know

1758
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:00,719
locking their doors grabbing their

1759
01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:03,360
rifles hiding their families running

1760
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:05,520
outside to fight

1761
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:08,239
these invading martians

1762
01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:09,199
you know

1763
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,280
it was so real

1764
01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:13,679
and it really got me to think because

1765
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:16,640
you know this is a hundred years ago

1766
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:17,360
and

1767
01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:20,159
even back then there existed

1768
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:21,840
in our collective

1769
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:24,960
humanity collective consciousness

1770
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:26,880
this intense fear

1771
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:29,360
of what we would term as the existential

1772
01:15:36,790 --> 01:15:30,960
threat

1773
01:15:37,669 --> 01:15:36,800
terrifying to humans

1774
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:37,679
was

1775
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:40,400
something coming from outer space

1776
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:43,600
to destroy our way of life

1777
01:15:48,790 --> 01:15:45,840
and it was so

1778
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:48,800
deeply ingrained in human consciousness

1779
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:51,120
that this thing would happen

1780
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:54,239
and it has happened

1781
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,480
okay so in our past

1782
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:58,719
our planet has been hit by celestial

1783
01:16:02,390 --> 01:16:00,159
objects

1784
01:16:03,990 --> 01:16:02,400
like an asteroid there's there's plenty

1785
01:16:07,510 --> 01:16:04,000
of evidence to show

1786
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:07,520
that the human race has been through

1787
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:09,920
cataclysms on earth and have lived to

1788
01:16:14,149 --> 01:16:11,120
tell about it

1789
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:14,159
and they carry that trauma so deep

1790
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:17,520
in their dna in their ancestral memories

1791
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:20,320
that they always have this great fear

1792
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:23,360
for this existential threat from space

1793
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:25,920
okay and this is what

1794
01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:28,800
is really feeding into this frenzy

1795
01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:29,679
of

1796
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:32,640
other worlds back a hundred years ago

1797
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:35,040
and

1798
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:36,960
you know it also

1799
01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:38,400
um

1800
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:39,600
gives itself

1801
01:16:46,550 --> 01:16:44,159
credit to the argument of ancient aliens

1802
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:46,560
of contact with other races or even

1803
01:16:50,709 --> 01:16:49,760
aliens walking among with us

1804
01:16:56,310 --> 01:16:50,719
that

1805
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:56,320
all right and

1806
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:59,199
the only way i can say that we even have

1807
01:17:02,149 --> 01:17:00,480
that fear

1808
01:17:05,110 --> 01:17:02,159
is that if something happened into our

1809
01:17:08,470 --> 01:17:05,120
past where something from space did come

1810
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:08,480
to the planet that just wrecked

1811
01:17:12,790 --> 01:17:10,239
you know humanity so we have that kind

1812
01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:12,800
of memory and this is why we're scared

1813
01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:13,920
so

1814
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:15,600
let's just fast forward a little you

1815
01:17:21,669 --> 01:17:19,520
know past uh you know world war ii

1816
01:17:24,390 --> 01:17:21,679
shortly after world war ii we come to a

1817
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:24,400
very special date in ufo history i would

1818
01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:25,600
say it's

1819
01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:29,520
the most important date in ufo history

1820
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:32,000
and that is july

1821
01:17:38,630 --> 01:17:34,640
1947

1822
01:17:40,630 --> 01:17:38,640
and i believe it was july 19th

1823
01:17:43,270 --> 01:17:40,640
1947 i believe

1824
01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:43,280
and this is when the world was still at

1825
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:46,159
a very high alert

1826
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:48,320
from obviously world war ii

1827
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:50,400
and this is when the roswell new mexico

1828
01:17:54,550 --> 01:17:53,360
ufo crash happens supposedly and

1829
01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:54,560
supposedly

1830
01:17:57,830 --> 01:17:56,800
covered up

1831
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:57,840
and

1832
01:18:02,709 --> 01:17:59,920
it's from this story

1833
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:02,719
it's from the roswell story

1834
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:03,920
that

1835
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:05,760
i would say

1836
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:08,000
almost every single

1837
01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:09,600
ufo

1838
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:10,800
story

1839
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:13,600
has come from this so it uses the

1840
01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:17,280
roswell story as the foundational

1841
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:18,719
event

1842
01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:20,960
that caused the trickle down to what we

1843
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:23,760
see today as the secret space program

1844
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:25,920
so we'll get back to roswell but that is

1845
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:29,280
like the key foundational moment

1846
01:18:35,189 --> 01:18:32,320
and that's also when it was ufo frenzy

1847
01:18:36,790 --> 01:18:35,199
between like the 40s 50s and 60s this

1848
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:36,800
was like

1849
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:40,719
prime time ufo saucer mania especially

1850
01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:42,719
in the united states

1851
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:43,600
you know

1852
01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:44,640
you have a

1853
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:46,080
damski and

1854
01:18:49,030 --> 01:18:48,080
you know all these people and

1855
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:49,040
um

1856
01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:51,600
you also have someone named jay allen

1857
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:53,679
heineck

1858
01:18:57,830 --> 01:18:55,040
and

1859
01:19:01,110 --> 01:18:57,840
he was a scientific advisor to the u.s

1860
01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:01,120
air force and he got taken into programs

1861
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:04,880
very famous programs starting from 1947

1862
01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:07,920
so he comes into 9 1547 after the

1863
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:10,719
roswell incident all right

1864
01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:13,440
all the way up to 1969

1865
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:15,840
and most people know jay allen heineck

1866
01:19:22,229 --> 01:19:18,239
from project bloomberg i'm sorry project

1867
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:22,239
blue book yes and he also developed

1868
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:24,960
the close encounters ufo classic

1869
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,679
classification system

1870
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:29,840
all right so we have this

1871
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:31,760
huge development

1872
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:36,000
over the past 60 70 years of history

1873
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:37,120
that all

1874
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:38,400
uh started to

1875
01:19:44,310 --> 01:19:41,520
explode after world war ii

1876
01:19:46,630 --> 01:19:44,320
and the roswell incident

1877
01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:46,640
you know in in 1966 you get gene

1878
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:49,280
roddenberry you create star trek

1879
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:51,600
which really brings people to this kind

1880
01:19:58,709 --> 01:19:57,270
idea that humans are capable of evolving

1881
01:20:01,030 --> 01:19:58,719
technologically

1882
01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:01,040
to a point where they're able to explore

1883
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:02,640
space

1884
01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:04,560
discovering new worlds becoming a

1885
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:06,960
federation of planets and you know

1886
01:20:10,629 --> 01:20:07,840
having

1887
01:20:12,629 --> 01:20:10,639
connection with alien races so this was

1888
01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:12,639
all part of kind of like the collective

1889
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:15,840
consciousness back in the 60s

1890
01:20:19,030 --> 01:20:17,280
and

1891
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:19,040
during this whole time

1892
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:21,920
even back to like tesla's days

1893
01:20:27,669 --> 01:20:24,719
there were contactees

1894
01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:27,679
there were psychics and channelers

1895
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:30,960
that were basically telling the world

1896
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:33,120
prepare for contact

1897
01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:35,600
something is coming we're able to

1898
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:37,199
communicate and

1899
01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:40,480
we've been kind of led down that road

1900
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:42,880
so after star trek after you know jay

1901
01:20:47,590 --> 01:20:45,600
allen heineck you know joins the uf us

1902
01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:47,600
air force programs

1903
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:49,600
um

1904
01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:50,880
we send

1905
01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:52,239
a message

1906
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:54,320
into outer space

1907
01:21:01,110 --> 01:20:57,520
on the first voyager the voyager record

1908
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:03,030
and this record

1909
01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:04,560
was to

1910
01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:05,920
um

1911
01:21:10,790 --> 01:21:08,719
you know it's like a greeting card

1912
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:10,800
showing other beings or from another

1913
01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:12,560
world or another time

1914
01:21:16,870 --> 01:21:14,480
hey we're humans we're here on earth

1915
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:16,880
here's a map this is our music this is

1916
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:19,760
who we are this is our genetics

1917
01:21:23,590 --> 01:21:22,400
so we're actively now sending a message

1918
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:23,600
back out

1919
01:21:29,110 --> 01:21:26,000
to outer space looking for a response

1920
01:21:32,070 --> 01:21:30,189
and

1921
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:32,080
1977

1922
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:33,760
is also the year

1923
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:36,960
close encounters of a third kind

1924
01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:39,120
was released as a movie

1925
01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:41,679
now i don't know about you

1926
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:43,120
but for me

1927
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:45,760
that movie is one of the best

1928
01:21:51,350 --> 01:21:48,480
ufo movies i remember seeing it as a kid

1929
01:21:53,750 --> 01:21:51,360
and just be blown away

1930
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:53,760
and you know if i even watch it today it

1931
01:22:02,470 --> 01:22:00,070
and

1932
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:02,480
we're gonna get into that movie a little

1933
01:22:05,830 --> 01:22:04,080
more later

1934
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:05,840
in the show

1935
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:06,560
so

1936
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:08,960
after that

1937
01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:10,960
we still have this idea of this

1938
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:12,960
existential threat

1939
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:15,120
something from out of this world that

1940
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:16,719
can come to us

1941
01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:19,679
and september 21st

1942
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:21,760
1987

1943
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:24,480
ronald reagan gives his famous speech at

1944
01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:27,120
the un general assembly

1945
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:30,800
where he uses okay he uses the whole

1946
01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:32,960
fear of the existential threat that

1947
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:35,040
we've been talking about

1948
01:22:39,110 --> 01:22:37,679
as a way to unify all the nations of the

1949
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:39,120
world together

1950
01:22:43,510 --> 01:22:41,760
in fighting that one threat

1951
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,520
and i i have this quote right here i'm

1952
01:22:46,550 --> 01:22:45,120
just gonna read it because it's it's

1953
01:22:48,070 --> 01:22:46,560
profound

1954
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:48,080
he says

1955
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:50,400
i occasionally think how quickly our

1956
01:22:55,350 --> 01:22:53,040
differences worldwide would vanish

1957
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:55,360
if we were facing an alien threat he

1958
01:23:01,669 --> 01:22:58,320
used the word alien threat

1959
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:01,679
okay from outside this world

1960
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:03,760
and yet i ask you

1961
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:07,199
is not an alien force already among us

1962
01:23:11,030 --> 01:23:08,880
yes

1963
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:11,040
i'm laughing because you know you got

1964
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:13,120
the conspiracy theorists that and we'll

1965
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:15,199
get more into why that's a very

1966
01:23:18,790 --> 01:23:17,040
important line

1967
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:18,800
what could be more alien to the

1968
01:23:24,310 --> 01:23:21,120
universal aspirations

1969
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:24,320
of our peoples than war and the threat

1970
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,560
of war

1971
01:23:29,590 --> 01:23:28,080
this is crazy

1972
01:23:33,189 --> 01:23:29,600
and it's at this

1973
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:33,199
time 1987

1974
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:34,960
that somebody

1975
01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:37,120
hands some papers

1976
01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:39,440
to ufologist

1977
01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:41,920
bill moore

1978
01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:43,600
and one of those papers

1979
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:47,120
is the majestic 12 documents

1980
01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:50,400
and you know those documents allege

1981
01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:54,159
that there is a powerful secretive group

1982
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:55,840
that are behind the governments and

1983
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:57,280
military

1984
01:24:02,790 --> 01:24:00,000
that handle the ufo and extraterrestrial

1985
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:02,800
cover cover-ups on earth

1986
01:24:08,950 --> 01:24:05,920
starting obviously at roswell

1987
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:08,960
and it started with president truman

1988
01:24:14,149 --> 01:24:12,480
from the crash retrieval of roswell

1989
01:24:15,910 --> 01:24:14,159
and i just want to put this out here

1990
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:15,920
because you know many people that listen

1991
01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:17,920
are ufo buffs

1992
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:20,159
this document

1993
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:21,760
through bill moore

1994
01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:24,719
connects to paul bennowitz

1995
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:27,199
it connects to

1996
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:30,480
a diffs information

1997
01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:33,040
counter intelligence officer

1998
01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:35,199
that we know very well

1999
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:37,920
by the name of richard doty

2000
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:39,520
so you have all these names and people

2001
01:24:43,830 --> 01:24:41,600
all these documents in history

2002
01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:43,840
that are interjecting themselves at

2003
01:24:48,180 --> 01:24:46,080
various important parts

2004
01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:48,190
in the history of ufos

2005
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:49,920
[Music]

2006
01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:52,239
and then a couple years later

2007
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:54,159
1993

2008
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:56,800
the first episode of x-files

2009
01:25:00,390 --> 01:24:58,480
is released

2010
01:25:02,390 --> 01:25:00,400
and that becomes

2011
01:25:03,590 --> 01:25:02,400
one of the most popular sci-fi shows on

2012
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:03,600
tv

2013
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,600
and it uses

2014
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:07,920
all those conspiracies it uses all those

2015
01:25:12,629 --> 01:25:10,719
cover-ups it uses all that stuff that's

2016
01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:12,639
been talked about for over a hundred

2017
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:14,320
years

2018
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:16,159
and it cements

2019
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:17,440
it

2020
01:25:22,950 --> 01:25:20,480
into the minds of the mainstream

2021
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:22,960
all right and remember what the plot of

2022
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:25,520
x-files actually is the plot of the

2023
01:25:31,030 --> 01:25:28,080
x-files that the back story is that

2024
01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:31,040
there's a secret group of individuals

2025
01:25:35,590 --> 01:25:33,040
who runs the world

2026
01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:35,600
and keeps us in the dark about alien

2027
01:25:39,189 --> 01:25:38,159
contacts secret technologies

2028
01:25:43,590 --> 01:25:39,199
with

2029
01:25:46,470 --> 01:25:43,600
very nefarious globalist goals in mind

2030
01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:46,480
that are teamed up with aliens now

2031
01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:49,920
that show basically in 1993

2032
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:52,080
epitomizes

2033
01:25:55,990 --> 01:25:54,239
all this knowledge that has been going

2034
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:56,000
on in the background for over a hundred

2035
01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:02,310
and then

2036
01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:08,870
i would say that

2037
01:26:14,229 --> 01:26:11,440
we have to acknowledge

2038
01:26:16,870 --> 01:26:14,239
that history first

2039
01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:16,880
before we start getting into all this

2040
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:18,320
new stuff

2041
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:20,320
that comes our way

2042
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:22,320
because a lot of the stories that we

2043
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:23,920
hear today

2044
01:26:28,070 --> 01:26:25,920
a lot of whistleblowers

2045
01:26:31,750 --> 01:26:28,080
a lot of people coming with contact

2046
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:31,760
stories or um insiders working for the

2047
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:33,280
military

2048
01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:36,480
when they start telling their story for

2049
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:39,679
example especially in this day and age

2050
01:26:44,470 --> 01:26:41,840
they use

2051
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:44,480
specific back stories

2052
01:26:47,350 --> 01:26:46,239
and say this is what happened in the

2053
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:47,360
past

2054
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:53,910
so if you don't really have a good

2055
01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:56,159
handle on the past and if you don't have

2056
01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:58,719
a good handle on this ufo

2057
01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:01,520
narrative agenda hoaxes you know what

2058
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:03,199
has been

2059
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:05,840
purposeful disinformation

2060
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:08,480
what is the truth if you don't have this

2061
01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:11,120
kind of foundation in our history and

2062
01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:12,800
past

2063
01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:15,360
almost anybody could enter the ufo world

2064
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:17,760
give a story and say oh yeah the

2065
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:21,120
philadelphia experiment oh yeah roswell

2066
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:23,040
and this is why

2067
01:27:26,709 --> 01:27:25,199
my story is true

2068
01:27:29,189 --> 01:27:26,719
you know

2069
01:27:30,950 --> 01:27:29,199
and a lot of people do that and become

2070
01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:30,960
very very famous

2071
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:33,440
for piecing these stories together and

2072
01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:35,840
making this great tale

2073
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:38,159
but if you actually do the research and

2074
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:40,320
really dig through these original

2075
01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:42,080
stories

2076
01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:44,960
a lot of them start to fall apart

2077
01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:47,600
so uh for those that are getting into

2078
01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:49,600
the ufo culture

2079
01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:52,000
um when they start hearing new evidence

2080
01:27:55,189 --> 01:27:53,280
or or

2081
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:55,199
stories that come up and

2082
01:28:01,270 --> 01:27:57,840
being in this community for so long

2083
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:01,280
uh stories become cyclical

2084
01:28:05,830 --> 01:28:03,440
as in a story will become very popular

2085
01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:05,840
for about a year and it will go away for

2086
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:08,320
five years and that exact same story

2087
01:28:11,750 --> 01:28:09,600
will come back

2088
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:11,760
and new people will jump on it and we're

2089
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:12,880
like

2090
01:28:16,709 --> 01:28:14,960
you didn't know five years ago that was

2091
01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:16,719
totally dismissed why are you talking

2092
01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:18,639
about it again

2093
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:21,440
and this is the cycle that we find in

2094
01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:24,400
the ufo culture in the ufo community

2095
01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:26,960
and you know when you know

2096
01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:29,920
me and you or others that have been

2097
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:31,600
doing this for a long time when we sit

2098
01:28:35,830 --> 01:28:34,159
down together off the air

2099
01:28:37,990 --> 01:28:35,840
and we start talking about stories of

2100
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:38,000
back in the day remember when this

2101
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:39,040
happened

2102
01:28:44,550 --> 01:28:43,280
oh yeah yeah yeah that that was total

2103
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:44,560
garbage

2104
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,320
and then a year later suddenly it's all

2105
01:28:50,149 --> 01:28:48,480
over the internet again

2106
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:50,159
and we're trying to like and then we

2107
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:52,239
tell people um maybe you should look

2108
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:54,000
closer in that story because you know

2109
01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:56,560
it's it's not really factual

2110
01:29:01,270 --> 01:28:58,960
and suddenly we become

2111
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:01,280
the disinformation agents

2112
01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:02,880
trying to help people

2113
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:05,120
steer them in the right direction

2114
01:29:07,830 --> 01:29:06,320
so

2115
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:07,840
tonight

2116
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:10,960
what we're going to do is jumping off of

2117
01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:12,639
that history that i

2118
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:15,040
just slightly touched at tonight

2119
01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:17,120
we're going to get into some really

2120
01:29:23,189 --> 01:29:19,440
interesting stories

2121
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:23,199
that will take us down this path

2122
01:29:26,390 --> 01:29:24,719
okay is that all right with you jim matt

2123
01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:26,400
well done

2124
01:29:35,430 --> 01:29:32,639
let's take our break right here

2125
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:35,440
we've got uh we've got a great uh great

2126
01:29:39,189 --> 01:29:36,960
list of uh

2127
01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:39,199
of uh different uh conspiracies that

2128
01:29:42,070 --> 01:29:40,560
we're gonna jump into right after the

2129
01:29:44,310 --> 01:29:42,080
break this is fade to black i'm yours

2130
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:44,320
jimmy church jason quit is here it's

2131
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:46,400
conspiracy number nine

2132
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:47,840
are you ready

2133
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:52,400
one pipe two pipes three pipes four all

2134
01:29:57,300 --> 01:29:54,239
of that is next this is fade to black

2135
01:30:03,140 --> 01:29:57,310
stay with us

2136
01:30:03,150 --> 01:30:13,669
[Music]

2137
01:30:21,669 --> 01:30:16,870
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2138
01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:23,830
you're listening to jimmy church and

2139
01:30:30,380 --> 01:30:25,360
fade to black

2140
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:42,229
[Applause]

2141
01:30:46,790 --> 01:30:44,709
this is jimmy church jason martell's

2142
01:30:49,590 --> 01:30:46,800
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2143
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2145
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2146
01:30:58,629 --> 01:30:56,080
say their gods came from across the

2147
01:31:01,189 --> 01:30:58,639
ocean or from the mountains they always

2148
01:31:04,070 --> 01:31:01,199
came down from the skies was ancient man

2149
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2150
01:31:08,390 --> 01:31:05,920
have not been told the full truth about

2151
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our human past there was a time when all

2152
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the ancient cultures lived amongst

2153
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beings they considered their gods the

2154
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search for truth leads us down the path

2155
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2165
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2166
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2167
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2168
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2171
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2172
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2173
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headed do you wonder about the food

2174
01:32:01,830 --> 01:31:59,679
supply i do disruptions in the food

2175
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2176
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they usually occur with little warning

2177
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that's why the smartest thing you can do

2178
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2179
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2191
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2192
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2193
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2194
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2208
01:33:26,970 --> 01:33:25,040
listen to us and we listen to you

2209
01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:26,980
and so does the cia

2210
01:33:35,030 --> 01:33:30,000
[Music]

2211
01:33:41,910 --> 01:33:37,110
you are listening to fate to black with

2212
01:33:47,350 --> 01:33:44,390
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

2213
01:33:50,149 --> 01:33:47,360
jimmy church this is revolution the

2214
01:33:53,430 --> 01:33:50,159
revolution will not be televised the

2215
01:33:58,090 --> 01:33:53,440
revolution is on radio

2216
01:34:10,850 --> 01:34:08,229
[Music]

2217
01:34:23,669 --> 01:34:10,860
so

2218
01:34:36,629 --> 01:34:23,679
[Music]

2219
01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:38,310
welcome back fate to black i am your

2220
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:40,560
host jimmy church tonight jason quit is

2221
01:34:44,390 --> 01:34:41,760
here

2222
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:44,400
and uh let me uh shift some stuff around

2223
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:46,480
it is conspiracy

2224
01:34:50,709 --> 01:34:48,480
number nine

2225
01:34:53,430 --> 01:34:50,719
and uh you guys remember the ranking

2226
01:34:55,109 --> 01:34:53,440
system it's one pipes two pipes three

2227
01:34:58,070 --> 01:34:55,119
pipes four

2228
01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:58,080
and uh i'll be monitoring uh twitter

2229
01:35:03,750 --> 01:35:00,880
tonight hashtag f2b is the sandbox

2230
01:35:06,709 --> 01:35:03,760
and uh we'll get some votes uh tabulated

2231
01:35:08,870 --> 01:35:06,719
tonight uh with all of this and uh of

2232
01:35:13,189 --> 01:35:08,880
course our guest tonight is jason quit

2233
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:13,199
now uh jason um let's uh

2234
01:35:18,070 --> 01:35:15,920
let's uh let's just go in order okay

2235
01:35:20,950 --> 01:35:18,080
we'll just go in order uh though

2236
01:35:21,910 --> 01:35:20,960
there is no particular order to this

2237
01:35:22,790 --> 01:35:21,920
um

2238
01:35:25,189 --> 01:35:22,800
uh

2239
01:35:27,270 --> 01:35:25,199
the last two are gonna be really cool

2240
01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:27,280
and uh and let's hope we have some time

2241
01:35:31,430 --> 01:35:29,440
to get to that let's uh what's number

2242
01:35:34,149 --> 01:35:31,440
one what's the what's this

2243
01:35:36,229 --> 01:35:34,159
conspiracy number one tonight hold on

2244
01:35:37,350 --> 01:35:36,239
i'm getting my my pipe out here let's

2245
01:35:39,430 --> 01:35:37,360
see

2246
01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:39,440
he's got he literally gotta hear that

2247
01:35:45,750 --> 01:35:41,679
over the mic yes we can

2248
01:35:49,669 --> 01:35:47,669
the first one

2249
01:35:51,270 --> 01:35:49,679
is the military

2250
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:51,280
at or nasa

2251
01:35:57,510 --> 01:35:55,440
lying to us about ufos

2252
01:35:59,430 --> 01:35:57,520
that will be the first oh

2253
01:36:02,070 --> 01:35:59,440
man

2254
01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:02,080
that's uh

2255
01:36:10,310 --> 01:36:07,840
almost do a preemptive strike on on a

2256
01:36:12,709 --> 01:36:10,320
pipe uh ranking right now out of the

2257
01:36:15,350 --> 01:36:12,719
gate right just the just

2258
01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:15,360
just the suggestion of that

2259
01:36:18,950 --> 01:36:17,840
for four coughs

2260
01:36:24,709 --> 01:36:18,960
you have four

2261
01:36:30,629 --> 01:36:27,189
well before before we jump into this i

2262
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:30,639
mean uh immediate my immediate reaction

2263
01:36:36,149 --> 01:36:32,800
to to that is

2264
01:36:38,550 --> 01:36:36,159
uh of course and yes

2265
01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:38,560
and they have to

2266
01:36:42,470 --> 01:36:40,560
there's reasons for me saying all of

2267
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:42,480
that right but

2268
01:36:46,229 --> 01:36:45,040
uh of course yes and

2269
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:46,239
they have to

2270
01:36:51,510 --> 01:36:49,520
they can't tell the truth

2271
01:36:53,430 --> 01:36:51,520
but uh let's

2272
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:53,440
jump to

2273
01:37:00,149 --> 01:36:58,719
the sub of this who is this

2274
01:37:01,430 --> 01:37:00,159
it's a story

2275
01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:01,440
about

2276
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:04,480
a gentleman from the uk

2277
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:07,520
his name is gary mckinnon

2278
01:37:11,669 --> 01:37:09,840
and he is famous

2279
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:11,679
in the ufo community

2280
01:37:14,229 --> 01:37:12,400
yeah

2281
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:14,239
okay let me jump in i'm going to jump in

2282
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:16,320
right there i'm already interrupting

2283
01:37:20,470 --> 01:37:17,760
jason quit

2284
01:37:24,390 --> 01:37:20,480
so i go to

2285
01:37:26,149 --> 01:37:24,400
the hope conference in new york city

2286
01:37:28,390 --> 01:37:26,159
and hope is

2287
01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:28,400
hopee hackers

2288
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:30,239
on planet earth

2289
01:37:34,470 --> 01:37:33,119
it's a hacker convention

2290
01:37:36,550 --> 01:37:34,480
with hackers

2291
01:37:38,149 --> 01:37:36,560
okay now i'm there filming for the

2292
01:37:40,390 --> 01:37:38,159
history channel

2293
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:40,400
and uh for three days uh at this

2294
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:43,679
conference and there's enough drama uh

2295
01:37:46,470 --> 01:37:45,040
at another time i'll tell you some of

2296
01:37:49,910 --> 01:37:46,480
the stories but

2297
01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:49,920
one of the things once um all of these

2298
01:37:53,109 --> 01:37:50,960
hackers

2299
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:53,119
you know find out that i'm

2300
01:37:57,189 --> 01:37:55,760
you know they're in ufos and and and

2301
01:37:59,830 --> 01:37:57,199
whatever

2302
01:38:01,270 --> 01:37:59,840
i'm going to say this

2303
01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:01,280
hackers

2304
01:38:06,229 --> 01:38:04,800
in the hacker world

2305
01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:06,239
one of

2306
01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:07,440
their

2307
01:38:10,950 --> 01:38:09,040
deities

2308
01:38:13,669 --> 01:38:10,960
is gary mckinnon

2309
01:38:15,750 --> 01:38:13,679
and they all wanted to talk to me about

2310
01:38:17,910 --> 01:38:15,760
gary mckinnon and the first time that it

2311
01:38:19,990 --> 01:38:17,920
happened like with the first hacker the

2312
01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:20,000
first person with the hoodie you know

2313
01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:22,719
black hoodie you know the shadow figure

2314
01:38:26,950 --> 01:38:24,960
okay man but uh what do you know about

2315
01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:26,960
uh gary mckinnon and i was like wait

2316
01:38:32,790 --> 01:38:29,199
wait wait what

2317
01:38:34,629 --> 01:38:32,800
how do you know about gary and and it is

2318
01:38:36,709 --> 01:38:34,639
remarkable

2319
01:38:38,629 --> 01:38:36,719
um how they

2320
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:38,639
hold him up

2321
01:38:44,550 --> 01:38:42,000
as as one of these figures that that has

2322
01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:44,560
the most respect in the hacker community

2323
01:38:48,790 --> 01:38:46,560
isn't that crazy and i i would have

2324
01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:48,800
never expected that

2325
01:38:53,830 --> 01:38:50,960
oh he um

2326
01:38:54,950 --> 01:38:53,840
he showed the u.s

2327
01:38:57,189 --> 01:38:54,960
that

2328
01:38:58,470 --> 01:38:57,199
they are open for business when it comes

2329
01:39:00,790 --> 01:38:58,480
to hacking

2330
01:39:02,390 --> 01:39:00,800
and he's just embarrassed okay so

2331
01:39:03,990 --> 01:39:02,400
where's the military tell us about

2332
01:39:05,189 --> 01:39:04,000
gary's story

2333
01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:05,199
okay so

2334
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:09,119
the year is 2001 and 2002. so we're

2335
01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:10,880
going back 20 years

2336
01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:12,800
from now

2337
01:39:15,990 --> 01:39:14,080
and

2338
01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:16,000
he decides

2339
01:39:22,950 --> 01:39:19,119
that he's going to start hacking the us

2340
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:22,960
military and not and nasa

2341
01:39:27,189 --> 01:39:25,040
and why

2342
01:39:28,870 --> 01:39:27,199
uh he had many reasons but what made him

2343
01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:28,880
famous in

2344
01:39:33,430 --> 01:39:30,480
the ufo community

2345
01:39:35,990 --> 01:39:33,440
is he wanted to know for sure

2346
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:36,000
if the military and nasa were hiding

2347
01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:39,280
aliens in alien technology he just had

2348
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:41,280
to know he had to figure it out now are

2349
01:39:47,430 --> 01:39:43,600
you going to get into how he did this

2350
01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:47,440
but i i can certainly comment on that

2351
01:39:52,149 --> 01:39:48,639
um

2352
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:52,159
about the uh the passwords yeah yeah

2353
01:39:58,070 --> 01:39:55,040
so what gary was uh uh

2354
01:39:59,830 --> 01:39:58,080
an installer of of software and computer

2355
01:40:01,189 --> 01:39:59,840
systems back in the united kingdom work

2356
01:40:03,750 --> 01:40:01,199
for a company

2357
01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:03,760
and uh and he

2358
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:05,440
wrote

2359
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:08,080
a line of code now i'm not saying that

2360
01:40:14,310 --> 01:40:10,800
you know gary was some

2361
01:40:16,709 --> 01:40:14,320
you know insane code writer you know for

2362
01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:16,719
uh these big corporations and he wrote

2363
01:40:20,390 --> 01:40:19,119
thousands of lines of code a day

2364
01:40:23,109 --> 01:40:20,400
no

2365
01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:23,119
but he was smart

2366
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:25,840
in his simplistic approach

2367
01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:29,199
to writing a specific line of code

2368
01:40:32,070 --> 01:40:30,719
that would

2369
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:32,080
go

2370
01:40:34,709 --> 01:40:33,119
and

2371
01:40:36,629 --> 01:40:34,719
insert

2372
01:40:38,870 --> 01:40:36,639
a password

2373
01:40:42,390 --> 01:40:38,880
into computer systems

2374
01:40:46,229 --> 01:40:42,400
and and unlock a specific terminal right

2375
01:40:47,669 --> 01:40:46,239
and and what the password was

2376
01:40:49,109 --> 01:40:47,679
was like

2377
01:40:54,070 --> 01:40:49,119
password

2378
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:54,080
right or admin or whatever because most

2379
01:40:58,470 --> 01:40:55,440
uh

2380
01:41:01,189 --> 01:40:58,480
people don't change the initial

2381
01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:01,199
password to the computer

2382
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:04,560
the admin password you know and so

2383
01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:07,119
he he used this specific little little

2384
01:41:12,870 --> 01:41:09,760
just couple of lines of code right

2385
01:41:15,189 --> 01:41:12,880
because he would use it for his job to

2386
01:41:16,470 --> 01:41:15,199
as well and he found out in installing

2387
01:41:18,950 --> 01:41:16,480
software that nobody changed their

2388
01:41:21,109 --> 01:41:18,960
passwords right and he could go in and

2389
01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:21,119
type in whatever you know password or

2390
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:22,159
admin

2391
01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:23,920
and and he could get into computer

2392
01:41:31,270 --> 01:41:26,239
systems and do the install and and do

2393
01:41:33,109 --> 01:41:31,280
his thing well he used that simple idea

2394
01:41:35,109 --> 01:41:33,119
on the united states government and

2395
01:41:38,470 --> 01:41:35,119
specifically nasa

2396
01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:38,480
and found out very quickly

2397
01:41:43,669 --> 01:41:41,360
that nobody changed their passwords

2398
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:43,679
right

2399
01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:46,480
this little civil line of code he

2400
01:41:51,189 --> 01:41:48,719
suddenly opened up the door at the

2401
01:41:54,229 --> 01:41:51,199
kennedy space center uh i believe that's

2402
01:41:55,990 --> 01:41:54,239
where uh one of his initial uh

2403
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:56,000
ventures was into

2404
01:42:01,990 --> 01:41:58,320
and and then once he was into the system

2405
01:42:05,430 --> 01:42:02,000
he typed in a search word which was ufos

2406
01:42:06,950 --> 01:42:05,440
how simple is that it's the simple way

2407
01:42:08,629 --> 01:42:06,960
which is always

2408
01:42:10,629 --> 01:42:08,639
you know usually the most effective

2409
01:42:13,030 --> 01:42:10,639
right

2410
01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:13,040
and on the books

2411
01:42:18,709 --> 01:42:15,440
so what's uh what's official

2412
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:18,719
is that he hacked into 97

2413
01:42:30,709 --> 01:42:29,109
it's the best story ever man and the

2414
01:42:33,189 --> 01:42:30,719
thing is

2415
01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:33,199
it's true

2416
01:42:38,229 --> 01:42:35,199
and um

2417
01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:38,239
my only comment to that is how true is

2418
01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:40,080
true

2419
01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:42,400
the queen of england and

2420
01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:45,119
and uh barack obama

2421
01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:46,960
went toe-to-toe on this

2422
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:49,280
uh over gary mckinnon

2423
01:42:54,950 --> 01:42:50,239
and

2424
01:42:56,390 --> 01:42:54,960
uh absolute state level

2425
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:56,400
of this and i'm talking about the

2426
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:57,679
president of the united states and the

2427
01:43:02,790 --> 01:42:59,040
queen of england

2428
01:43:05,109 --> 01:43:02,800
uh squaring off over gary mckinnon

2429
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:05,119
something went down

2430
01:43:10,070 --> 01:43:07,280
and that's the truth

2431
01:43:13,030 --> 01:43:10,080
they they wanted about 70 years of

2432
01:43:14,790 --> 01:43:13,040
prison time in the united states yep

2433
01:43:16,790 --> 01:43:14,800
they were trying to extradite him for

2434
01:43:19,910 --> 01:43:16,800
years

2435
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:19,920
and it went to the highest levels

2436
01:43:27,750 --> 01:43:22,960
so this was front page news that this

2437
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:27,760
guy did this to the us military in nasa

2438
01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:28,800
and

2439
01:43:32,950 --> 01:43:30,400
basically got away with it because he

2440
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:32,960
wasn't extradited now do you think that

2441
01:43:38,550 --> 01:43:36,320
uh the our government was upset because

2442
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:38,560
they were embarrassed

2443
01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:41,760
you know the the methodology uh the way

2444
01:43:46,229 --> 01:43:44,080
that we're talking about

2445
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:46,239
a modem

2446
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:48,400
right which was actually his downfall

2447
01:43:52,709 --> 01:43:50,080
and how he got caught

2448
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:52,719
because of the baud rate of the modem uh

2449
01:43:56,870 --> 01:43:54,239
was so slow

2450
01:43:59,109 --> 01:43:56,880
but he's at his mom's apartment on the

2451
01:44:00,870 --> 01:43:59,119
telephone modem

2452
01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:00,880
getting into

2453
01:44:05,590 --> 01:44:03,440
defense and nasa computers

2454
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:05,600
over here in the united states but

2455
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:07,840
do you think that that was part of the

2456
01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:09,040
anger

2457
01:44:14,390 --> 01:44:12,800
of the cia and and of course all the way

2458
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:14,400
to uh the white house and the oval

2459
01:44:17,750 --> 01:44:15,360
office

2460
01:44:19,750 --> 01:44:17,760
that that they got hacked by this guy it

2461
01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:19,760
wasn't you know it wasn't north korea it

2462
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:21,920
wasn't russia it wasn't china

2463
01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:24,400
it was uh a guy

2464
01:44:28,229 --> 01:44:26,400
in london

2465
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,239
i think they were completely caught off

2466
01:44:31,990 --> 01:44:30,320
guard completely embarrassed by it

2467
01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:32,000
because it was international news

2468
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:33,760
because it made them look weak

2469
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:35,600
but i think they played it all wrong i

2470
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:37,360
mean if i was

2471
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:39,520
the intelligence community

2472
01:44:44,070 --> 01:44:41,920
i wouldn't arrest this guy i would hire

2473
01:44:50,149 --> 01:44:44,080
him

2474
01:44:51,750 --> 01:44:50,159
the team

2475
01:44:53,590 --> 01:44:51,760
that's what i would do yeah that's what

2476
01:44:56,629 --> 01:44:53,600
they should have done so what did uh

2477
01:44:59,590 --> 01:44:56,639
what did what did gary find out as he

2478
01:45:04,070 --> 01:44:59,600
searched that keyword ufo

2479
01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:04,080
he came to a terminal at nasa

2480
01:45:07,669 --> 01:45:05,440
where he

2481
01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:07,679
says okay so we're taking his word now

2482
01:45:13,109 --> 01:45:10,560
because there really is no physical hard

2483
01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:13,119
data that he saved because of the modem

2484
01:45:17,510 --> 01:45:14,719
it was going so slow

2485
01:45:18,950 --> 01:45:17,520
and because he said that the picture

2486
01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:18,960
that he found

2487
01:45:23,510 --> 01:45:21,280
that he had to uh download

2488
01:45:25,109 --> 01:45:23,520
took forever so you know back then you

2489
01:45:27,350 --> 01:45:25,119
know it was just little like blocks at a

2490
01:45:28,550 --> 01:45:27,360
time so he's sitting on looking at his

2491
01:45:32,790 --> 01:45:28,560
screen

2492
01:45:34,390 --> 01:45:32,800
at a picture of a ufo that nasa was

2493
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:34,400
censoring

2494
01:45:39,669 --> 01:45:36,400
and he described it

2495
01:45:42,149 --> 01:45:39,679
as a very large metallic

2496
01:45:44,470 --> 01:45:42,159
cylinder over the earth

2497
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:44,480
like from a satellite type picture very

2498
01:45:49,590 --> 01:45:47,280
clear you can see this perfectly

2499
01:45:52,310 --> 01:45:49,600
and he said it was loading very slowly

2500
01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:52,320
and he saw it and he didn't save it

2501
01:45:56,629 --> 01:45:54,960
so that's number one well and so what

2502
01:45:59,990 --> 01:45:56,639
happened okay

2503
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:00,000
that's the end of the story actually

2504
01:46:05,270 --> 01:46:02,800
because what happened at that moment

2505
01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:05,280
is somebody's walking through this is

2506
01:46:10,390 --> 01:46:07,360
this is fact this is not

2507
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:10,400
you know made up uh uh

2508
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:11,280
uh

2509
01:46:15,830 --> 01:46:14,480
folklore right this is this is an urban

2510
01:46:17,189 --> 01:46:15,840
myth

2511
01:46:19,030 --> 01:46:17,199
urban legend

2512
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:19,040
somebody's walking through

2513
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:21,520
and they look down at this terminal they

2514
01:46:27,830 --> 01:46:24,880
see the picture being downloaded

2515
01:46:30,790 --> 01:46:27,840
and then they see a mouse

2516
01:46:33,109 --> 01:46:30,800
moving around the screen and that's gary

2517
01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:33,119
moving the mouse from the united kingdom

2518
01:46:36,709 --> 01:46:35,199
he's got control of the terminal

2519
01:46:38,550 --> 01:46:36,719
and they see the mouse moving around and

2520
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:38,560
they go oh holy crap somebody's got

2521
01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:40,320
access to the computer boom and they

2522
01:46:45,590 --> 01:46:42,560
shut the computer down

2523
01:46:47,750 --> 01:46:45,600
and uh and so that's why the picture

2524
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:47,760
didn't finish downloading he only got to

2525
01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:50,239
see a half or two-thirds of it

2526
01:46:54,709 --> 01:46:53,040
um and and he knows

2527
01:46:56,629 --> 01:46:54,719
in england

2528
01:46:58,870 --> 01:46:56,639
now the clock is ticking

2529
01:47:01,189 --> 01:46:58,880
right he's been found out he they don't

2530
01:47:03,189 --> 01:47:01,199
know who he is yet

2531
01:47:04,149 --> 01:47:03,199
but

2532
01:47:04,950 --> 01:47:04,159
you know

2533
01:47:11,750 --> 01:47:04,960
the

2534
01:47:13,270 --> 01:47:11,760
tripping he's paranoid but uh so that

2535
01:47:15,750 --> 01:47:13,280
was the picture and that's how he got

2536
01:47:18,709 --> 01:47:15,760
caught the moving mouse on the screen

2537
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:18,719
and uh security guard or whoever was

2538
01:47:22,550 --> 01:47:21,040
walking by saw this and shut the

2539
01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:22,560
terminal down

2540
01:47:26,229 --> 01:47:24,560
before the picture

2541
01:47:29,270 --> 01:47:26,239
he had access

2542
01:47:30,950 --> 01:47:29,280
to a folder with documents in it what

2543
01:47:33,189 --> 01:47:30,960
was in that folder

2544
01:47:36,470 --> 01:47:33,199
he found a spreadsheet

2545
01:47:37,950 --> 01:47:36,480
and on this spreadsheet was a list and

2546
01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:37,960
it said

2547
01:47:47,510 --> 01:47:40,800
non-terrestrial officers

2548
01:47:50,390 --> 01:47:47,520
ships and transfer of cargo information

2549
01:47:51,430 --> 01:47:50,400
and also was it the uh united states

2550
01:47:56,470 --> 01:47:51,440
navy

2551
01:47:58,390 --> 01:47:56,480
that's that is correct

2552
01:48:00,790 --> 01:47:58,400
so it was from the united states navy

2553
01:48:02,550 --> 01:48:00,800
but the title was

2554
01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:02,560
non-terrestrial officer

2555
01:48:06,149 --> 01:48:04,480
and what is non-terrestrial i mean you

2556
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:06,159
think the navy okay non-terrestrial

2557
01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:08,320
means they're out on the water right

2558
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:10,480
but no this was not like that this was

2559
01:48:14,229 --> 01:48:12,400
non-terrestrial as in

2560
01:48:17,109 --> 01:48:14,239
outer space is he talking about

2561
01:48:18,390 --> 01:48:17,119
transfers of spaceships cargo in outer

2562
01:48:20,629 --> 01:48:18,400
space right

2563
01:48:21,510 --> 01:48:20,639
that's what he believes

2564
01:48:25,510 --> 01:48:21,520
and

2565
01:48:28,229 --> 01:48:25,520
he found it in a very interesting folder

2566
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:28,239
and he has that picture so for him

2567
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:30,480
he found what he was looking for

2568
01:48:35,189 --> 01:48:33,360
he found this proof of a cover-up

2569
01:48:37,990 --> 01:48:35,199
of that they know

2570
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:38,000
something about ufos

2571
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:41,280
and there is a secret space program

2572
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:43,920
is what he believes and this was back in

2573
01:48:48,870 --> 01:48:46,960
2001 2002. and this is the first mention

2574
01:48:49,750 --> 01:48:48,880
of solar warden

2575
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:49,760
nope

2576
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:52,320
oh that is that is a myth

2577
01:48:56,470 --> 01:48:53,920
oh

2578
01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:56,480
the conspiracy just gets better

2579
01:49:00,149 --> 01:48:57,440
okay

2580
01:49:03,350 --> 01:49:00,159
straight out from this never had

2581
01:49:07,270 --> 01:49:03,360
anything to do with the word solar

2582
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:07,280
warden and i will tell you who did

2583
01:49:10,629 --> 01:49:08,480
shortly

2584
01:49:12,830 --> 01:49:10,639
because there's a there's a story in

2585
01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:12,840
between that that you need to know first

2586
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:16,080
okay so let's just do a pipe rating

2587
01:49:21,030 --> 01:49:17,920
right here let's do a pipe rating gary

2588
01:49:26,229 --> 01:49:23,750
witnesses i guess we'll title this

2589
01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:26,239
gary mckinnon witnesses

2590
01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:30,480
ufo document folder uh nasa terminal

2591
01:49:35,189 --> 01:49:33,040
uh with a secret space program

2592
01:49:36,310 --> 01:49:35,199
information and

2593
01:49:50,310 --> 01:49:36,320
a

2594
01:49:55,750 --> 01:49:50,320
list

2595
01:49:58,950 --> 01:49:55,760
of uh non-terrestrial naval officers

2596
01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:58,960
one pipe two pipes three pipes four and

2597
01:50:02,390 --> 01:50:00,639
uh so i'll turn that over to the

2598
01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:02,400
audience i'm gonna go

2599
01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:04,880
because of the facts of the case on this

2600
01:50:07,030 --> 01:50:05,920
and

2601
01:50:09,990 --> 01:50:07,040
um

2602
01:50:11,350 --> 01:50:10,000
it's solidity right it's totally solid

2603
01:50:14,470 --> 01:50:11,360
over time

2604
01:50:16,149 --> 01:50:14,480
i'm going uh four pipes i could go four

2605
01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:16,159
and a half

2606
01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:17,679
i would say

2607
01:50:21,669 --> 01:50:18,400
i

2608
01:50:24,070 --> 01:50:21,679
three

2609
01:50:26,149 --> 01:50:24,080
but because it was him and i have no

2610
01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:26,159
reason to doubt that he is lying what he

2611
01:50:30,229 --> 01:50:28,320
saw

2612
01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:30,239
that i have to go for

2613
01:50:36,870 --> 01:50:34,800
for gary and the queen of england

2614
01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:36,880
pushes this over the top

2615
01:50:40,550 --> 01:50:38,400
and uh

2616
01:50:42,390 --> 01:50:40,560
and i remember oh this is the other this

2617
01:50:44,470 --> 01:50:42,400
was the other claim

2618
01:50:45,910 --> 01:50:44,480
at the time okay what did you say three

2619
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:45,920
pipes or four

2620
01:50:49,990 --> 01:50:47,440
four you're going for

2621
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:50,000
um i think they claimed the united

2622
01:50:55,830 --> 01:50:53,440
states government that he did uh

2623
01:50:57,030 --> 01:50:55,840
hundreds of thousands of dollars of

2624
01:50:59,189 --> 01:50:57,040
damage

2625
01:51:01,430 --> 01:50:59,199
to computer systems

2626
01:51:02,709 --> 01:51:01,440
right which is a a load of crap i think

2627
01:51:04,390 --> 01:51:02,719
it was like eight hundred thousand

2628
01:51:07,430 --> 01:51:04,400
dollars right they were talking yeah

2629
01:51:09,430 --> 01:51:07,440
yeah officially they said 700 000

2630
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:09,440
and um

2631
01:51:13,189 --> 01:51:10,800
again i think they're just pumping the

2632
01:51:15,109 --> 01:51:13,199
numbers so that they have reason to

2633
01:51:16,629 --> 01:51:15,119
extra extradite him

2634
01:51:19,589 --> 01:51:16,639
right right

2635
01:51:22,709 --> 01:51:19,599
right okay so i'm going four pipes okay

2636
01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:22,719
let's see four pipes gary yeah okay uh

2637
01:51:27,030 --> 01:51:24,800
everybody bust that out hashtag f2b

2638
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:27,040
what's your pipe rating on uh gary

2639
01:51:29,589 --> 01:51:28,239
mckinnon

2640
01:51:32,470 --> 01:51:29,599
um

2641
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:32,480
but yeah very solid four pipes we can't

2642
01:51:35,830 --> 01:51:34,080
bend the rules and circle you know four

2643
01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:35,840
and a half pipes man i'm going four and

2644
01:51:39,109 --> 01:51:37,119
a half but

2645
01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:39,119
in this case i would do that

2646
01:51:43,669 --> 01:51:42,239
so the the original question was is the

2647
01:51:46,070 --> 01:51:43,679
military

2648
01:51:48,790 --> 01:51:46,080
or nasa hiding

2649
01:51:52,709 --> 01:51:48,800
aliens or secret space programs

2650
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:52,719
and i would say that gary mckinnon

2651
01:51:56,629 --> 01:51:54,800
hands down prove that there is something

2652
01:51:59,350 --> 01:51:56,639
going on right

2653
01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:59,360
so four pipes four pipes

2654
01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:00,400
uh

2655
01:52:07,669 --> 01:52:05,520
remember um i i

2656
01:52:11,030 --> 01:52:07,679
i went back and watched uh we need to

2657
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:11,040
move on uh to uh the next conspiracy but

2658
01:52:16,470 --> 01:52:14,719
the original interviews by gary and even

2659
01:52:18,790 --> 01:52:16,480
the most recent ones

2660
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:18,800
um and you know what i reached out to

2661
01:52:22,550 --> 01:52:20,320
him and i didn't get him on the air and

2662
01:52:24,709 --> 01:52:22,560
there was some reason why but now i'm

2663
01:52:27,189 --> 01:52:24,719
ready to circle back and and get gary

2664
01:52:29,910 --> 01:52:27,199
mckinnon um on on fade to block i'll

2665
01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:29,920
i'll go ahead and get that done i have

2666
01:52:33,830 --> 01:52:30,960
everything to

2667
01:52:36,550 --> 01:52:33,840
to to do that but watching his original

2668
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:36,560
interviews where he describes exactly

2669
01:52:43,189 --> 01:52:38,880
how he got it done

2670
01:52:45,990 --> 01:52:43,199
um it's the most honest i think he is

2671
01:52:47,030 --> 01:52:46,000
um i don't think he's got

2672
01:52:49,350 --> 01:52:47,040
um

2673
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:49,360
anything about him what's the word

2674
01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:51,360
dishonest right

2675
01:52:55,030 --> 01:52:53,360
i don't find anything he's

2676
01:52:57,589 --> 01:52:55,040
proud of it

2677
01:52:59,430 --> 01:52:57,599
why because it was so simple and he's

2678
01:53:01,910 --> 01:52:59,440
always said dude i'm not i'm not the

2679
01:53:04,149 --> 01:53:01,920
biggest brainiac in the world i just you

2680
01:53:06,470 --> 01:53:04,159
know i knew how to do this with this

2681
01:53:08,950 --> 01:53:06,480
little line of code that i wrote and and

2682
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:08,960
nobody changes their passwords

2683
01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:11,360
and it's it was the easiest thing to do

2684
01:53:14,390 --> 01:53:12,719
it was simple

2685
01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:14,400
you know the question was

2686
01:53:19,350 --> 01:53:16,560
uh you know how do i dial an

2687
01:53:21,910 --> 01:53:19,360
international number on my modem right

2688
01:53:24,870 --> 01:53:21,920
it was like that really

2689
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:24,880
really but that's how we got it done

2690
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:28,480
so so the next thing you have to okay

2691
01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:30,560
everything is is historical and

2692
01:53:34,310 --> 01:53:32,320
everything lines up and this is how i

2693
01:53:36,550 --> 01:53:34,320
want to frame everything okay because

2694
01:53:38,149 --> 01:53:36,560
we're talking about the internet back at

2695
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:38,159
dial-up okay

2696
01:53:45,950 --> 01:53:42,960
uh this is pretty uh this is pre youtube

2697
01:53:47,910 --> 01:53:45,960
youtube doesn't come i think until 2004

2698
01:53:51,990 --> 01:53:47,920
2005.

2699
01:53:55,350 --> 01:53:52,000
and after gary mckinnon does this

2700
01:53:56,950 --> 01:53:55,360
now people are speaking in forums okay

2701
01:53:59,350 --> 01:53:56,960
that's what the internet is it's it's

2702
01:54:02,310 --> 01:53:59,360
forums and people are writing about what

2703
01:54:04,870 --> 01:54:02,320
gary did what gary found and all these

2704
01:54:07,910 --> 01:54:04,880
alien conspiracies start coming back

2705
01:54:10,870 --> 01:54:07,920
onto the internet from the days of

2706
01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:10,880
x-files in the days of uh

2707
01:54:13,910 --> 01:54:12,719
mj-12

2708
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:13,920
so

2709
01:54:19,830 --> 01:54:16,480
suddenly now you have

2710
01:54:23,350 --> 01:54:19,840
an internet culture on fire

2711
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:23,360
with conspiracies again because

2712
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:25,920
of gary mckinnon

2713
01:54:30,229 --> 01:54:27,920
and if we

2714
01:54:33,990 --> 01:54:30,239
go a little further in history to about

2715
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:36,310
there's a website forum that everybody

2716
01:54:39,750 --> 01:54:37,840
knows in this community called the

2717
01:54:42,470 --> 01:54:39,760
avalon forum

2718
01:54:44,550 --> 01:54:42,480
run by bill ryan carrie cassidy a

2719
01:54:49,669 --> 01:54:44,560
project camelot

2720
01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:52,390
an anonymous email

2721
01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:54,880
was sent on the internet

2722
01:54:59,030 --> 01:54:55,679
that

2723
01:54:59,990 --> 01:54:59,040
landed on these forums

2724
01:55:03,350 --> 01:55:00,000
and

2725
01:55:06,629 --> 01:55:03,360
this email was about a project called

2726
01:55:08,870 --> 01:55:06,639
project serpo

2727
01:55:11,430 --> 01:55:08,880
all right and this landed on

2728
01:55:13,189 --> 01:55:11,440
multiple forums but most famously on the

2729
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:13,199
avalon forum

2730
01:55:20,550 --> 01:55:15,520
and bill ryan actually took control of

2731
01:55:22,229 --> 01:55:20,560
that project project circle so the next

2732
01:55:23,589 --> 01:55:22,239
conspiracy

2733
01:55:25,830 --> 01:55:23,599
is

2734
01:55:28,629 --> 01:55:25,840
was there a secret

2735
01:55:31,430 --> 01:55:28,639
et exchange program

2736
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:31,440
known as project serpo

2737
01:55:37,750 --> 01:55:35,360
and this uh yeah

2738
01:55:38,629 --> 01:55:37,760
man this is

2739
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:38,639
when

2740
01:55:45,589 --> 01:55:44,560
the serious depths

2741
01:55:48,950 --> 01:55:45,599
of

2742
01:55:50,629 --> 01:55:48,960
ufology and and what is going on and

2743
01:55:53,510 --> 01:55:50,639
certainly history because now that's

2744
01:55:55,669 --> 01:55:53,520
approaching 20 years ago now this is not

2745
01:55:56,870 --> 01:55:55,679
yesterday but i remember it like it was

2746
01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:56,880
yesterday

2747
01:56:01,229 --> 01:55:59,119
and and project serpo

2748
01:56:03,589 --> 01:56:01,239
and what ended up

2749
01:56:05,589 --> 01:56:03,599
unfolding and i'm talking about the

2750
01:56:08,470 --> 01:56:05,599
website the information

2751
01:56:10,310 --> 01:56:08,480
the martinez and his downloads and and

2752
01:56:12,550 --> 01:56:10,320
the information and was the website

2753
01:56:15,510 --> 01:56:12,560
updated that day and the people that

2754
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:15,520
were allegedly involved with this and

2755
01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:18,320
that goes right to uh back to richard

2756
01:56:21,990 --> 01:56:20,880
doty another name that surfaces you know

2757
01:56:25,350 --> 01:56:22,000
once again

2758
01:56:26,550 --> 01:56:25,360
and uh and bill ryan and and carrie

2759
01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:26,560
cassidy

2760
01:56:31,270 --> 01:56:28,719
and uh

2761
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:31,280
the head of the cia and the aviary and

2762
01:56:36,390 --> 01:56:33,280
these names and these things that are

2763
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:36,400
popping up it was uh

2764
01:56:41,589 --> 01:56:40,800
uh one of the most insane times

2765
01:56:44,629 --> 01:56:41,599
uh

2766
01:56:46,629 --> 01:56:44,639
for the ufo community to go through and

2767
01:56:47,669 --> 01:56:46,639
i was doing every day

2768
01:56:49,830 --> 01:56:47,679
jason

2769
01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:49,840
i'm i'm coming home signing on to the

2770
01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:51,920
net looking for another update on the

2771
01:56:56,229 --> 01:56:53,840
project serpo site you know what's the

2772
01:57:00,229 --> 01:56:56,239
new update what's the new any new info

2773
01:57:01,990 --> 01:57:00,239
coming in and it was a huge site

2774
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:02,000
and now

2775
01:57:05,750 --> 01:57:03,920
what was project serpo we're going to do

2776
01:57:08,149 --> 01:57:05,760
all of that after the break uh what did

2777
01:57:11,669 --> 01:57:08,159
it involve what was it uh

2778
01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:11,679
an exchange program with et's uh to this

2779
01:57:17,510 --> 01:57:14,639
other planet and the journey there

2780
01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:17,520
uh it's such a crazy story we'll do all

2781
01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:19,040
of that when we come back after this

2782
01:57:24,229 --> 01:57:21,599
short break that's because tonight is

2783
01:57:25,830 --> 01:57:24,239
quit spirity number nine with jason

2784
01:57:27,910 --> 01:57:25,840
quinn coming up next

2785
01:57:29,669 --> 01:57:27,920
project serpo

2786
01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:29,679
stay with us we'll be right back this is

2787
01:57:34,629 --> 01:57:32,719
fade to black on the on x and game

2788
01:57:37,110 --> 01:57:34,639
changer networks i'll be right back stay

2789
01:57:39,180 --> 01:57:37,120
with us

2790
01:57:40,340 --> 01:57:39,190
[Music]

2791
01:57:42,950 --> 01:57:40,350
[Applause]

2792
01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:42,960
[Music]

2793
01:57:50,830 --> 01:57:44,400
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2840
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2841
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2842
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2843
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2844
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2845
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2846
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2847
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2848
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2849
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2850
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2856
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2857
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2858
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2860
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2866
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2886
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2888
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2889
02:02:30,180 --> 02:02:23,830
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2890
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2891
02:02:46,310 --> 02:02:44,470
welcome back paint to black i'm here

2892
02:02:48,050 --> 02:02:46,320
with jimmy church tonight jason quit

2893
02:02:49,910 --> 02:02:48,060
conspiracy number nine

2894
02:02:52,390 --> 02:02:49,920
[Music]

2895
02:02:54,870 --> 02:02:52,400
conspiracy number nine okay so just to

2896
02:02:58,790 --> 02:02:54,880
give you the setup right before the

2897
02:03:02,870 --> 02:02:58,800
break the next conspiracy up is project

2898
02:03:05,750 --> 02:03:02,880
serpo was there an exchange program with

2899
02:03:08,149 --> 02:03:05,760
et's all right so you mentioned uh bill

2900
02:03:11,830 --> 02:03:08,159
ryan carrie cassidy i brought in uh bill

2901
02:03:13,990 --> 02:03:11,840
dodie uh bill dodie

2902
02:03:16,709 --> 02:03:14,000
richard richard dodie

2903
02:03:19,189 --> 02:03:16,719
and uh and there's others uh involved in

2904
02:03:21,910 --> 02:03:19,199
this and the whole aviary and things

2905
02:03:24,790 --> 02:03:21,920
which also interweaves back into

2906
02:03:27,589 --> 02:03:24,800
uh other parts of ufo history but before

2907
02:03:31,030 --> 02:03:27,599
we get there let's stay right on project

2908
02:03:34,070 --> 02:03:31,040
serpo um after this uh

2909
02:03:38,550 --> 02:03:34,080
uh post starts making its way around the

2910
02:03:40,790 --> 02:03:38,560
forums then a website was created um and

2911
02:03:44,470 --> 02:03:40,800
let's let's start there what was project

2912
02:03:46,470 --> 02:03:44,480
serpo well let's just

2913
02:03:48,390 --> 02:03:46,480
there are many updates like you said you

2914
02:03:50,550 --> 02:03:48,400
were waiting for updates

2915
02:03:53,589 --> 02:03:50,560
but there is an original

2916
02:03:54,950 --> 02:03:53,599
email an original email letter that was

2917
02:03:58,470 --> 02:03:54,960
sent

2918
02:04:01,270 --> 02:03:58,480
and this is a story

2919
02:04:03,350 --> 02:04:01,280
that originally started back at the

2920
02:04:05,750 --> 02:04:03,360
roswell crash that's why i said roswell

2921
02:04:07,430 --> 02:04:05,760
is the most important event because all

2922
02:04:10,550 --> 02:04:07,440
these other stories

2923
02:04:13,510 --> 02:04:10,560
their foundation is roswell so they said

2924
02:04:16,149 --> 02:04:13,520
in roswell 1947

2925
02:04:19,350 --> 02:04:16,159
the craft crashed

2926
02:04:21,430 --> 02:04:19,360
and uh there was an alien

2927
02:04:22,709 --> 02:04:21,440
that they called eben or it was called

2928
02:04:24,950 --> 02:04:22,719
an eben

2929
02:04:27,189 --> 02:04:24,960
survived the crash

2930
02:04:29,830 --> 02:04:27,199
and this surviving alien

2931
02:04:32,950 --> 02:04:29,840
was taken to los alamos

2932
02:04:34,470 --> 02:04:32,960
until it died in 1952

2933
02:04:38,069 --> 02:04:34,480
but during

2934
02:04:40,390 --> 02:04:38,079
the alien stay at los alamos

2935
02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:40,400
they learned how to communicate with the

2936
02:04:45,990 --> 02:04:41,920
eben

2937
02:04:48,149 --> 02:04:46,000
military

2938
02:04:50,310 --> 02:04:48,159
the technology that survived from the

2939
02:04:51,109 --> 02:04:50,320
ufo

2940
02:04:53,270 --> 02:04:51,119
now

2941
02:04:55,189 --> 02:04:53,280
one of those technologies

2942
02:04:57,830 --> 02:04:55,199
that survived the crash

2943
02:05:00,470 --> 02:04:57,840
was a communication device

2944
02:05:03,910 --> 02:05:00,480
that was able to open a dialogue

2945
02:05:07,350 --> 02:05:03,920
between earth and the even planet which

2946
02:05:09,589 --> 02:05:07,360
they said was located in zeta reticuli

2947
02:05:11,030 --> 02:05:09,599
so this is the how the story goes so the

2948
02:05:12,550 --> 02:05:11,040
alien survives

2949
02:05:15,030 --> 02:05:12,560
roswell

2950
02:05:17,270 --> 02:05:15,040
and they're able to communicate with it

2951
02:05:18,629 --> 02:05:17,280
they find and learn how to use the

2952
02:05:21,350 --> 02:05:18,639
technology

2953
02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:21,360
from the ufo

2954
02:05:24,310 --> 02:05:21,890
and

2955
02:05:25,589 --> 02:05:24,320
[Music]

2956
02:05:27,910 --> 02:05:25,599
during this

2957
02:05:31,109 --> 02:05:27,920
communication between the eben and their

2958
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:31,119
home world and zeta reticuli

2959
02:05:35,990 --> 02:05:32,480
the earth

2960
02:05:37,030 --> 02:05:36,000
and the ebins made an agreement

2961
02:05:38,950 --> 02:05:37,040
to

2962
02:05:42,470 --> 02:05:38,960
return the bodies

2963
02:05:45,750 --> 02:05:42,480
of the dead ebens from the roswell crash

2964
02:05:47,589 --> 02:05:45,760
and in exchange they would take 12 u.s

2965
02:05:49,750 --> 02:05:47,599
military personnel

2966
02:05:52,709 --> 02:05:49,760
back to the even home world

2967
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:52,719
in a type of exchange program

2968
02:05:57,990 --> 02:05:55,679
and one eben from the planet would come

2969
02:06:01,350 --> 02:05:58,000
back to earth and stay with the military

2970
02:06:02,950 --> 02:06:01,360
to teach them more about the technology

2971
02:06:07,669 --> 02:06:02,960
and they said that

2972
02:06:11,350 --> 02:06:07,679
this exchange program happened in 1965

2973
02:06:14,229 --> 02:06:11,360
and the letter goes on or the updates go

2974
02:06:16,709 --> 02:06:14,239
on to say that it played out exactly

2975
02:06:19,350 --> 02:06:16,719
literally exactly scene for scene like

2976
02:06:21,189 --> 02:06:19,360
the movie close encounters of third kind

2977
02:06:24,229 --> 02:06:21,199
that is correct

2978
02:06:25,669 --> 02:06:24,239
and i had to re-watch that movie today

2979
02:06:29,189 --> 02:06:25,679
that part

2980
02:06:31,189 --> 02:06:29,199
and it's so funny because

2981
02:06:34,709 --> 02:06:31,199
when that exchange happens you have to

2982
02:06:37,589 --> 02:06:34,719
remember there was 12 people

2983
02:06:40,069 --> 02:06:37,599
10 men two women they're dressed in

2984
02:06:41,669 --> 02:06:40,079
these red jumpsuits and the first scene

2985
02:06:43,830 --> 02:06:41,679
you see them in they're like getting

2986
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:43,840
blessed by the church

2987
02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:46,960
because they're going to be going on

2988
02:06:50,149 --> 02:06:48,480
this spaceship

2989
02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:50,159
and they're wearing these jumpsuits

2990
02:06:55,030 --> 02:06:51,760
they're prepared they're already they

2991
02:06:56,069 --> 02:06:55,040
already know their mission sunglasses

2992
02:06:59,669 --> 02:06:56,079
big

2993
02:07:02,870 --> 02:06:59,679
right

2994
02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:02,880
and later in the updates you realize why

2995
02:07:07,589 --> 02:07:05,920
they needed these big sunglasses

2996
02:07:09,589 --> 02:07:07,599
was because

2997
02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:09,599
that planet

2998
02:07:12,790 --> 02:07:11,119
is very sunny

2999
02:07:14,790 --> 02:07:12,800
so our eyes wouldn't be used to their

3000
02:07:20,629 --> 02:07:14,800
planet so they were already preparing

3001
02:07:25,350 --> 02:07:23,109
so you have to watch

3002
02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:25,360
close encounters to see what project

3003
02:07:28,790 --> 02:07:27,520
serpo was talking about and they believe

3004
02:07:31,589 --> 02:07:28,800
that

3005
02:07:34,229 --> 02:07:31,599
steven spielberg was given

3006
02:07:37,189 --> 02:07:34,239
the script by the cia

3007
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:37,199
or the department of defense and that he

3008
02:07:43,430 --> 02:07:39,520
was told to make this movie to hide the

3009
02:07:45,270 --> 02:07:43,440
fact that this event actually took place

3010
02:07:46,470 --> 02:07:45,280
so that was the original

3011
02:07:48,629 --> 02:07:46,480
document

3012
02:07:50,950 --> 02:07:48,639
that came on to the forum

3013
02:07:53,669 --> 02:07:50,960
and people went

3014
02:07:55,990 --> 02:07:53,679
nuts absolutely

3015
02:07:57,830 --> 02:07:56,000
i was one of them i was one of them i

3016
02:08:01,270 --> 02:07:57,840
was one of them i was sucked in uh

3017
02:08:02,550 --> 02:08:01,280
completely uh one of uh and and we've

3018
02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:02,560
got other things that we're gonna

3019
02:08:06,629 --> 02:08:04,000
discuss tonight we're gonna stay on

3020
02:08:08,069 --> 02:08:06,639
serpo uh for a while

3021
02:08:10,709 --> 02:08:08,079
here

3022
02:08:13,750 --> 02:08:10,719
and i'm also going back to memory

3023
02:08:15,430 --> 02:08:13,760
because i spent a lot of there was a lot

3024
02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:15,440
of informa i mean

3025
02:08:20,390 --> 02:08:18,480
pages and pages and pages and pages of

3026
02:08:23,990 --> 02:08:20,400
information on the original

3027
02:08:25,990 --> 02:08:24,000
uh serpo site um but to condense this

3028
02:08:28,550 --> 02:08:26,000
down um

3029
02:08:30,310 --> 02:08:28,560
uh you just brought up 12 right in this

3030
02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:30,320
exchange program

3031
02:08:34,149 --> 02:08:32,960
um and that uh

3032
02:08:37,270 --> 02:08:34,159
after

3033
02:08:40,709 --> 02:08:37,280
the communications going back to 1952

3034
02:08:42,950 --> 02:08:40,719
that uh we arranged

3035
02:08:44,870 --> 02:08:42,960
for a craft

3036
02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:44,880
to land uh

3037
02:08:50,870 --> 02:08:48,880
and it was either at like um uh area 51

3038
02:08:52,470 --> 02:08:50,880
or edwards air force base you know which

3039
02:08:54,310 --> 02:08:52,480
is you know right up the street from

3040
02:08:57,109 --> 02:08:54,320
where i'm broadcasting from

3041
02:08:59,030 --> 02:08:57,119
um and that this this craft lands and

3042
02:09:01,669 --> 02:08:59,040
there's an exchange

3043
02:09:03,750 --> 02:09:01,679
and uh so

3044
02:09:11,109 --> 02:09:03,760
uh

3045
02:09:14,790 --> 02:09:11,119
some et's

3046
02:09:15,510 --> 02:09:14,800
and they go on a 13-year mission

3047
02:09:18,069 --> 02:09:15,520
to

3048
02:09:19,589 --> 02:09:18,079
uh planet serpo

3049
02:09:22,709 --> 02:09:19,599
it's 13 years

3050
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:22,719
and uh that part of this was also i

3051
02:09:26,470 --> 02:09:24,400
believe uh president kennedy was

3052
02:09:28,069 --> 02:09:26,480
involved in the negotiations for this

3053
02:09:31,990 --> 02:09:28,079
and setting this up

3054
02:09:34,790 --> 02:09:32,000
um and this actually happened in 1965

3055
02:09:36,470 --> 02:09:34,800
and the other uh so much information

3056
02:09:39,189 --> 02:09:36,480
that was on the of the website but there

3057
02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:39,199
was like an equipment list

3058
02:09:44,950 --> 02:09:42,480
of things that were sent to serpo

3059
02:09:46,950 --> 02:09:44,960
uh you got to drive right they need

3060
02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:46,960
jeeps you know things like i mean there

3061
02:09:51,589 --> 02:09:50,320
was like an equipment list of of

3062
02:09:54,550 --> 02:09:51,599
everything

3063
02:09:55,669 --> 02:09:54,560
uh that they needed for this 13-year

3064
02:09:56,870 --> 02:09:55,679
mission

3065
02:10:01,669 --> 02:09:56,880
and and

3066
02:10:04,709 --> 02:10:01,679
uh what else can you add to that

3067
02:10:07,189 --> 02:10:04,719
um well they get on the ship and they're

3068
02:10:09,350 --> 02:10:07,199
traveling i think it's um

3069
02:10:11,109 --> 02:10:09,360
four times if my memory serves anyway

3070
02:10:13,030 --> 02:10:11,119
four times the speed of light to get to

3071
02:10:14,470 --> 02:10:13,040
zeta reticuli it takes them a couple

3072
02:10:16,550 --> 02:10:14,480
months

3073
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:16,560
and they're keeping journals

3074
02:10:19,109 --> 02:10:17,920
supposedly

3075
02:10:20,870 --> 02:10:19,119
you know they're keeping journals

3076
02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:20,880
they're writing everything down they're

3077
02:10:24,709 --> 02:10:22,880
making their observations you know just

3078
02:10:26,629 --> 02:10:24,719
hanging out in the spaceship going to

3079
02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:26,639
zeta reticuli

3080
02:10:30,229 --> 02:10:28,800
they get there and um

3081
02:10:32,470 --> 02:10:30,239
you know it's a different environment

3082
02:10:34,550 --> 02:10:32,480
it's different food they you know they

3083
02:10:37,030 --> 02:10:34,560
get sick because they're they're not

3084
02:10:38,390 --> 02:10:37,040
equipped properly for the food that

3085
02:10:40,069 --> 02:10:38,400
awaits them

3086
02:10:42,470 --> 02:10:40,079
um they learn about

3087
02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:42,480
the culture um

3088
02:10:46,149 --> 02:10:43,840
how they live

3089
02:10:47,589 --> 02:10:46,159
that they're into genetic

3090
02:10:50,470 --> 02:10:47,599
manipulation

3091
02:10:52,790 --> 02:10:50,480
of their species um

3092
02:10:54,790 --> 02:10:52,800
it turns out that

3093
02:10:56,870 --> 02:10:54,800
one of the members dies i think it was

3094
02:10:59,030 --> 02:10:56,880
from influenza

3095
02:11:00,470 --> 02:10:59,040
and he you know never came back from

3096
02:11:02,790 --> 02:11:00,480
planet serpo

3097
02:11:05,189 --> 02:11:02,800
um there were two other people that

3098
02:11:07,189 --> 02:11:05,199
decided to never come back to earth

3099
02:11:08,470 --> 02:11:07,199
that's probably a smart idea

3100
02:11:10,550 --> 02:11:08,480
you know

3101
02:11:12,709 --> 02:11:10,560
and they they moved to the northern part

3102
02:11:14,790 --> 02:11:12,719
of planet serpo because the environment

3103
02:11:18,790 --> 02:11:14,800
was better for them

3104
02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:21,350
and then they came home and

3105
02:11:25,750 --> 02:11:22,880
the the interesting thing about the

3106
02:11:28,149 --> 02:11:25,760
story was that

3107
02:11:30,390 --> 02:11:28,159
the last surviving member of planet

3108
02:11:33,030 --> 02:11:30,400
serpo died i think they were saying in

3109
02:11:34,069 --> 02:11:33,040
2002

3110
02:11:36,830 --> 02:11:34,079
so

3111
02:11:39,350 --> 02:11:36,840
after the last member died suddenly

3112
02:11:40,550 --> 02:11:39,360
somebody leaked it

3113
02:11:42,470 --> 02:11:40,560
and

3114
02:11:47,189 --> 02:11:42,480
you know you want to give it a

3115
02:11:52,709 --> 02:11:49,350
it's like first you have the anonymous

3116
02:11:54,470 --> 02:11:52,719
letter talking about serpo and then you

3117
02:11:57,830 --> 02:11:54,480
have all these updates of other

3118
02:12:00,709 --> 02:11:57,840
anonymous emails confirming the story

3119
02:12:02,790 --> 02:12:00,719
and then adding one or two more details

3120
02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:02,800
or saying that detail that that

3121
02:12:06,790 --> 02:12:04,960
anonymous person said that's not true

3122
02:12:09,270 --> 02:12:06,800
but then this is true

3123
02:12:11,030 --> 02:12:09,280
so suddenly you have this huge

3124
02:12:13,270 --> 02:12:11,040
growing story

3125
02:12:15,430 --> 02:12:13,280
this update that basically paints this

3126
02:12:17,750 --> 02:12:15,440
incredible picture

3127
02:12:21,189 --> 02:12:17,760
of this mission

3128
02:12:22,709 --> 02:12:21,199
in this exchange program of humans going

3129
02:12:25,510 --> 02:12:22,719
to another planet

3130
02:12:27,270 --> 02:12:25,520
it's the most incredible story i think

3131
02:12:30,310 --> 02:12:27,280
i've ever read

3132
02:12:32,550 --> 02:12:30,320
and i didn't know anything about because

3133
02:12:34,629 --> 02:12:32,560
i came into the community after all this

3134
02:12:36,870 --> 02:12:34,639
i found out about serpo from becoming

3135
02:12:38,950 --> 02:12:36,880
friends with len caston

3136
02:12:40,629 --> 02:12:38,960
so i was just friends with len that we

3137
02:12:42,709 --> 02:12:40,639
met at a conference and he's like oh you

3138
02:12:45,910 --> 02:12:42,719
got to have my book and he hands me

3139
02:12:48,550 --> 02:12:45,920
a secret journey to project circle

3140
02:12:51,189 --> 02:12:48,560
and i read that book i think in like two

3141
02:12:53,270 --> 02:12:51,199
nights i couldn't put it down

3142
02:12:55,589 --> 02:12:53,280
it was because it's it is

3143
02:12:58,069 --> 02:12:55,599
i would say one of the best stories

3144
02:13:01,750 --> 02:12:58,079
because it pulls in so many

3145
02:13:04,149 --> 02:13:01,760
of the ufo uh conspiracy world of the of

3146
02:13:06,310 --> 02:13:04,159
the mythologies of the conspiracy world

3147
02:13:08,390 --> 02:13:06,320
and it connects it to like movies like

3148
02:13:11,109 --> 02:13:08,400
the spielberg movie

3149
02:13:13,350 --> 02:13:11,119
and all those things just make it real

3150
02:13:15,669 --> 02:13:13,360
you can really see these people going

3151
02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:15,679
and this actually happening

3152
02:13:18,229 --> 02:13:17,199
now there is uh

3153
02:13:20,629 --> 02:13:18,239
uh

3154
02:13:22,310 --> 02:13:20,639
before we get to ratings and stuff

3155
02:13:25,990 --> 02:13:22,320
there's there's a certain amount of

3156
02:13:28,149 --> 02:13:26,000
closure to this too as well so if we go

3157
02:13:30,709 --> 02:13:28,159
um and we go to the

3158
02:13:33,270 --> 02:13:30,719
uh you know the end of the the website

3159
02:13:36,069 --> 02:13:33,280
stops getting updated uh there's you

3160
02:13:40,709 --> 02:13:36,079
know it seems to have stalled and then

3161
02:13:43,350 --> 02:13:40,719
there's the backstory um that bill ryan

3162
02:13:45,910 --> 02:13:43,360
um has spoken about and bill is probably

3163
02:13:47,270 --> 02:13:45,920
going to listen to this um at some point

3164
02:13:49,830 --> 02:13:47,280
somebody will make him aware of this

3165
02:13:51,510 --> 02:13:49,840
show and and maybe comment and and he

3166
02:13:52,629 --> 02:13:51,520
can certainly reach out to me to clarify

3167
02:13:53,669 --> 02:13:52,639
things but

3168
02:13:57,430 --> 02:13:53,679
um

3169
02:13:58,390 --> 02:13:57,440
but it got pretty hairy

3170
02:14:04,390 --> 02:13:58,400
in

3171
02:14:06,870 --> 02:14:04,400
as

3172
02:14:09,109 --> 02:14:06,880
uh you know he's he's trying to manage

3173
02:14:10,550 --> 02:14:09,119
the story and the updates and this and

3174
02:14:13,270 --> 02:14:10,560
that but then there's

3175
02:14:15,669 --> 02:14:13,280
you know there's uh apparent you know

3176
02:14:18,310 --> 02:14:15,679
drop points and meetings and men in

3177
02:14:20,790 --> 02:14:18,320
black and the cia and

3178
02:14:23,350 --> 02:14:20,800
and and things going on in and out of

3179
02:14:27,030 --> 02:14:23,360
country and this whole

3180
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:27,040
spy versus spy world that bill ryan

3181
02:14:32,870 --> 02:14:29,280
suddenly felt himself

3182
02:14:36,310 --> 02:14:32,880
involved in i think that in the end

3183
02:14:38,870 --> 02:14:36,320
bill for his own reasons and he can

3184
02:14:41,030 --> 02:14:38,880
you know publicly comment about this

3185
02:14:44,229 --> 02:14:41,040
um he pulled out

3186
02:14:45,669 --> 02:14:44,239
he pulled out and and and stopped his

3187
02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:45,679
involvement

3188
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:47,920
uh with this now what those reasons are

3189
02:14:51,990 --> 02:14:49,760
uh that's up to bill

3190
02:14:54,390 --> 02:14:52,000
but then it goes back to

3191
02:14:56,310 --> 02:14:54,400
what was really going on

3192
02:15:00,149 --> 02:14:56,320
with project serpo

3193
02:15:01,669 --> 02:15:00,159
and was it just uh disinformation

3194
02:15:02,550 --> 02:15:01,679
misinformation

3195
02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:02,560
uh

3196
02:15:04,790 --> 02:15:03,760
was this

3197
02:15:07,910 --> 02:15:04,800
uh

3198
02:15:12,069 --> 02:15:07,920
an agency program that was put together

3199
02:15:14,390 --> 02:15:12,079
uh to mislead and and throw out uh stuff

3200
02:15:17,270 --> 02:15:14,400
um you know connecting dots back to

3201
02:15:20,069 --> 02:15:17,280
factual things in in history

3202
02:15:24,390 --> 02:15:20,079
and and turning that into

3203
02:15:26,149 --> 02:15:24,400
science fiction and throwing off the ufo

3204
02:15:29,510 --> 02:15:26,159
community with with all of this

3205
02:15:31,270 --> 02:15:29,520
information coming at them and um again

3206
02:15:33,669 --> 02:15:31,280
i'm not speaking for bill

3207
02:15:35,510 --> 02:15:33,679
um but when we look at some of the

3208
02:15:37,830 --> 02:15:35,520
players that are involved and of course

3209
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:37,840
you know like i said richard doty

3210
02:15:43,589 --> 02:15:40,880
um is involved with this um richard and

3211
02:15:45,030 --> 02:15:43,599
i have talked about this over the years

3212
02:15:46,870 --> 02:15:45,040
and so

3213
02:15:51,109 --> 02:15:46,880
for me

3214
02:15:52,149 --> 02:15:51,119
i look at project serpo two ways um

3215
02:15:55,109 --> 02:15:52,159
uh

3216
02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:55,119
so if i'm gonna rate this um in a pipe

3217
02:15:57,750 --> 02:15:56,719
rating system

3218
02:16:00,790 --> 02:15:57,760
jason

3219
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:00,800
as an effective conspiracy

3220
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:04,480
right as a or a conspiracy theory

3221
02:16:07,990 --> 02:16:06,560
you got to give it four pipes

3222
02:16:10,229 --> 02:16:08,000
it's a very

3223
02:16:12,470 --> 02:16:10,239
very effective story

3224
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:12,480
very detailed very deep and a lot of

3225
02:16:18,069 --> 02:16:14,800
people were involved with this

3226
02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:18,079
and so as a conspiracy i give it four

3227
02:16:21,510 --> 02:16:19,520
pipes

3228
02:16:25,910 --> 02:16:21,520
as

3229
02:16:29,350 --> 02:16:25,920
real

3230
02:16:33,110 --> 02:16:29,360
right an exchange program

3231
02:16:34,950 --> 02:16:33,120
i'm going one pipe and would almost go

3232
02:16:36,549 --> 02:16:34,960
negative

3233
02:16:37,910 --> 02:16:36,559
on that

3234
02:16:39,030 --> 02:16:37,920
because we have two different things

3235
02:16:42,549 --> 02:16:39,040
going on

3236
02:16:43,509 --> 02:16:42,559
now if there's a third category

3237
02:16:44,790 --> 02:16:43,519
here

3238
02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:44,800
that

3239
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:46,880
is it possible

3240
02:16:51,669 --> 02:16:49,200
that project serpo was real is it

3241
02:16:53,589 --> 02:16:51,679
possible that we had an exchange program

3242
02:16:55,990 --> 02:16:53,599
is it possible that we traveled at four

3243
02:16:58,790 --> 02:16:56,000
times the speed of light and we sent 12

3244
02:17:02,070 --> 02:16:58,800
courageous men and women to uh to

3245
02:17:04,549 --> 02:17:02,080
another planet uh for a 13-year mission

3246
02:17:05,750 --> 02:17:04,559
is that possible in an exchange program

3247
02:17:08,629 --> 02:17:05,760
with e.t

3248
02:17:11,669 --> 02:17:08,639
is that possible of course it's possible

3249
02:17:15,030 --> 02:17:11,679
absolutely it is possible

3250
02:17:17,509 --> 02:17:15,040
but is that a third category do we do we

3251
02:17:18,469 --> 02:17:17,519
go and if if that's a if that's the case

3252
02:17:20,469 --> 02:17:18,479
here

3253
02:17:21,669 --> 02:17:20,479
then i'll go two pipes i'll play it

3254
02:17:23,349 --> 02:17:21,679
right down the middle anything is

3255
02:17:26,469 --> 02:17:23,359
possible it could go either way i'll go

3256
02:17:28,389 --> 02:17:26,479
two pipes there but as a conspiracy four

3257
02:17:30,389 --> 02:17:28,399
pipes absolutely one of the best

3258
02:17:32,549 --> 02:17:30,399
conspiracies out there

3259
02:17:34,150 --> 02:17:32,559
um and uh

3260
02:17:36,469 --> 02:17:34,160
it made a great movie in close

3261
02:17:40,230 --> 02:17:36,479
encounters of the third kind for sure

3262
02:17:42,709 --> 02:17:40,240
um but as reality

3263
02:17:44,309 --> 02:17:42,719
and because of the way that it fell

3264
02:17:47,270 --> 02:17:44,319
apart in the end

3265
02:17:48,790 --> 02:17:47,280
i go one pipe okay so that's that's me

3266
02:17:50,549 --> 02:17:48,800
what do you say jason

3267
02:17:52,230 --> 02:17:50,559
i think that this is one of the best

3268
02:17:53,830 --> 02:17:52,240
examples

3269
02:17:59,669 --> 02:17:53,840
of

3270
02:18:01,589 --> 02:17:59,679
in the ufo community

3271
02:18:04,389 --> 02:18:01,599
and that it was implanted it was built

3272
02:18:05,669 --> 02:18:04,399
upon people took the bait and ran with

3273
02:18:08,230 --> 02:18:05,679
it yep

3274
02:18:09,990 --> 02:18:08,240
and people still argue about it today so

3275
02:18:11,830 --> 02:18:10,000
it was done perfectly in a

3276
02:18:15,190 --> 02:18:11,840
counter-intelligence way right you have

3277
02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:15,200
all the main players that are known

3278
02:18:19,910 --> 02:18:17,679
players of counter intelligence

3279
02:18:20,950 --> 02:18:19,920
pumping the story

3280
02:18:23,349 --> 02:18:20,960
um

3281
02:18:26,549 --> 02:18:23,359
so in that regard yeah that's a

3282
02:18:29,030 --> 02:18:26,559
in my opinion it's a four piper

3283
02:18:31,990 --> 02:18:29,040
for uh counter intelligence of the

3284
02:18:35,030 --> 02:18:32,000
taking over or disinformation in the ufo

3285
02:18:41,030 --> 02:18:37,589
is it real no exactly like you said i

3286
02:18:43,669 --> 02:18:41,040
would put it at one pipe if not zero

3287
02:18:44,870 --> 02:18:43,679
um is it in the realm of possibility

3288
02:18:48,950 --> 02:18:44,880
sure

3289
02:18:51,429 --> 02:18:48,960
just don't think it happened no i want i

3290
02:18:54,150 --> 02:18:51,439
want project serpo to be real

3291
02:18:55,030 --> 02:18:54,160
oh a hundred percent i mean i want that

3292
02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:55,040
to

3293
02:19:02,230 --> 02:18:58,399
encounters of the third kind where i

3294
02:19:04,150 --> 02:19:02,240
i've always felt that spielberg uh was

3295
02:19:05,270 --> 02:19:04,160
read in you know he had he had a lot of

3296
02:19:08,389 --> 02:19:05,280
information

3297
02:19:11,509 --> 02:19:08,399
um and and that movie came out uh

3298
02:19:15,030 --> 02:19:11,519
uh uh you know almost as propaganda as a

3299
02:19:15,910 --> 02:19:15,040
documentary and and i and i'm okay with

3300
02:19:19,910 --> 02:19:15,920
that

3301
02:19:22,150 --> 02:19:19,920
um so i want project circle to be real

3302
02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:22,160
i know too much about how the story fell

3303
02:19:26,150 --> 02:19:23,200
apart

3304
02:19:27,830 --> 02:19:26,160
and which broke my heart because i

3305
02:19:31,349 --> 02:19:27,840
invested

3306
02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:31,359
months and months of my life

3307
02:19:36,790 --> 02:19:34,479
reading studying confirming

3308
02:19:38,790 --> 02:19:36,800
and the things that came out of uh

3309
02:19:39,750 --> 02:19:38,800
project serpo

3310
02:19:43,030 --> 02:19:39,760
and

3311
02:19:44,469 --> 02:19:43,040
uh the website i'm talking about project

3312
02:19:47,589 --> 02:19:44,479
serpo

3313
02:19:49,910 --> 02:19:47,599
which introduced uh reintroduce i should

3314
02:19:51,830 --> 02:19:49,920
say the aviary where you had all the

3315
02:19:53,510 --> 02:19:51,840
bird names that were

3316
02:19:56,950 --> 02:19:53,520
applied to

3317
02:19:58,710 --> 02:19:56,960
uh this group that was

3318
02:19:59,910 --> 02:19:58,720
trying to

3319
02:20:01,830 --> 02:19:59,920
bring this

3320
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:01,840
information forward into the public and

3321
02:20:07,830 --> 02:20:04,720
in a clandestine manner again you know

3322
02:20:10,150 --> 02:20:07,840
it goes right back uh to spy versus spy

3323
02:20:11,990 --> 02:20:10,160
and the way that these things operate

3324
02:20:13,830 --> 02:20:12,000
but apparently

3325
02:20:16,309 --> 02:20:13,840
uh you know you had a former director of

3326
02:20:20,070 --> 02:20:16,319
the cia that was involved with this and

3327
02:20:22,870 --> 02:20:20,080
and was this uh ultimately just uh

3328
02:20:25,910 --> 02:20:22,880
a cia or an agency

3329
02:20:28,550 --> 02:20:25,920
uh propaganda project uh to

3330
02:20:31,030 --> 02:20:28,560
uh to mess with the ufo community i

3331
02:20:34,150 --> 02:20:31,040
think that's a very high probability

3332
02:20:35,910 --> 02:20:34,160
there i i really do which again gives

3333
02:20:39,429 --> 02:20:35,920
this a four pipe rating as far as

3334
02:20:41,750 --> 02:20:39,439
conspiracies go and i want to

3335
02:20:44,070 --> 02:20:41,760
bring this back to what you said about

3336
02:20:46,389 --> 02:20:44,080
gary mckinnon because remember all this

3337
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:46,399
stuff came out after

3338
02:20:52,150 --> 02:20:49,600
gary mckinnon started that fire

3339
02:20:54,150 --> 02:20:52,160
in the forums okay so there's a

3340
02:20:55,830 --> 02:20:54,160
historical connection here

3341
02:20:57,830 --> 02:20:55,840
and then you said to me

3342
02:20:59,910 --> 02:20:57,840
and then gary mckinnon said there's

3343
02:21:00,630 --> 02:20:59,920
solar warden and what did i say i said

3344
02:21:05,990 --> 02:21:00,640
no

3345
02:21:06,950 --> 02:21:06,000
but everybody you can even open up ufo

3346
02:21:09,750 --> 02:21:06,960
books

3347
02:21:14,070 --> 02:21:09,760
and it will say that gary mckinnon

3348
02:21:18,550 --> 02:21:14,080
proved solar warden exists now and okay

3349
02:21:21,910 --> 02:21:20,630
is this mandela effect

3350
02:21:24,230 --> 02:21:21,920
right

3351
02:21:27,590 --> 02:21:24,240
no no it's it's not it's

3352
02:21:29,030 --> 02:21:27,600
it's not because man i it's my memory

3353
02:21:31,510 --> 02:21:29,040
says

3354
02:21:33,429 --> 02:21:31,520
gary mckinnon

3355
02:21:35,830 --> 02:21:33,439
was the first person to use the term

3356
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:35,840
solar warden that's my memory and you're

3357
02:21:41,670 --> 02:21:39,120
killing one of my fondest memories

3358
02:21:45,830 --> 02:21:41,680
of ufo research right now

3359
02:21:48,309 --> 02:21:45,840
it's it's because any time people talk

3360
02:21:49,270 --> 02:21:48,319
about the secret space program as being

3361
02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:49,280
real

3362
02:21:55,670 --> 02:21:51,760
including the name solar warden

3363
02:21:58,389 --> 02:21:55,680
they start the story with gary mckinnon

3364
02:22:00,870 --> 02:21:58,399
okay so what's the progenator of solar

3365
02:22:03,110 --> 02:22:00,880
warden where did it originate

3366
02:22:05,030 --> 02:22:03,120
another

3367
02:22:07,670 --> 02:22:05,040
uh anonymous

3368
02:22:10,309 --> 02:22:07,680
email to a forum

3369
02:22:14,230 --> 02:22:10,319
continue continuing that when it was

3370
02:22:16,870 --> 02:22:14,240
it was in 2006 and it was in response to

3371
02:22:18,630 --> 02:22:16,880
the project serpo story

3372
02:22:20,870 --> 02:22:18,640
okay get out

3373
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:20,880
i i'm i'm putting the dots together here

3374
02:22:24,230 --> 02:22:22,880
i think i'm the only person in this

3375
02:22:25,349 --> 02:22:24,240
community

3376
02:22:27,990 --> 02:22:25,359
that

3377
02:22:30,550 --> 02:22:28,000
talks about this part okay

3378
02:22:32,070 --> 02:22:30,560
in 2006 right after the serpo

3379
02:22:34,550 --> 02:22:32,080
information hits

3380
02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:34,560
another anonymous

3381
02:22:42,070 --> 02:22:38,319
email comes out to the forums

3382
02:22:45,349 --> 02:22:42,080
and the anonymous email it's um signed

3383
02:22:47,910 --> 02:22:45,359
by the tc group

3384
02:22:49,190 --> 02:22:47,920
the sinus disclosures

3385
02:22:52,469 --> 02:22:49,200
okay

3386
02:22:55,429 --> 02:22:52,479
and supposedly it's a deathbed

3387
02:22:59,990 --> 02:22:55,439
confession from somebody

3388
02:23:02,870 --> 02:23:00,000
in the know all right someone very high

3389
02:23:04,790 --> 02:23:02,880
so there's this new email out

3390
02:23:07,510 --> 02:23:04,800
and basically this person on his

3391
02:23:11,830 --> 02:23:09,590
states that you know all the space

3392
02:23:13,910 --> 02:23:11,840
programs that we know like the nasa

3393
02:23:15,910 --> 02:23:13,920
space programs are all a cover to

3394
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:15,920
deceive the world

3395
02:23:19,590 --> 02:23:17,359
because

3396
02:23:22,550 --> 02:23:19,600
we have a secret space program we have a

3397
02:23:25,349 --> 02:23:22,560
secret space program fleet with the code

3398
02:23:28,550 --> 02:23:25,359
name solar warden

3399
02:23:30,070 --> 02:23:28,560
so the first mention of solar warden

3400
02:23:32,150 --> 02:23:30,080
ever

3401
02:23:34,710 --> 02:23:32,160
in the ufo community came from this

3402
02:23:37,550 --> 02:23:34,720
letter from the tc group

3403
02:23:39,429 --> 02:23:37,560
from the senior sinus disclosures in

3404
02:23:41,750 --> 02:23:39,439
2006

3405
02:23:43,590 --> 02:23:41,760
and the reason they came out is and to

3406
02:23:47,030 --> 02:23:43,600
quote the man

3407
02:23:49,990 --> 02:23:47,040
uh let me find his quote here he called

3408
02:23:55,429 --> 02:23:53,429
basically he calls uh the project serpo

3409
02:23:58,070 --> 02:23:55,439
story a pile of manure

3410
02:24:00,630 --> 02:23:58,080
so this man was very upset with project

3411
02:24:01,910 --> 02:24:00,640
serpo and he says i have to set the

3412
02:24:04,389 --> 02:24:01,920
record straight

3413
02:24:06,469 --> 02:24:04,399
on my deathbed

3414
02:24:09,110 --> 02:24:06,479
so he and it's not him writing it's

3415
02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:09,120
someone taking notes of the dying man

3416
02:24:14,230 --> 02:24:12,000
and then he emails it to the forum

3417
02:24:16,870 --> 02:24:14,240
and what he says

3418
02:24:19,070 --> 02:24:16,880
is that um

3419
02:24:20,630 --> 02:24:19,080
solar warden as of

3420
02:24:22,790 --> 02:24:20,640
2005

3421
02:24:25,270 --> 02:24:22,800
has eight ships in space

3422
02:24:28,950 --> 02:24:25,280
the size of aircraft carriers

3423
02:24:31,110 --> 02:24:28,960
and 43 space planes okay that's what

3424
02:24:33,190 --> 02:24:31,120
they say solar warden is

3425
02:24:35,990 --> 02:24:33,200
he goes on to state

3426
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:36,000
that one of these space planes was lost

3427
02:24:40,870 --> 02:24:37,840
on a mission to mars

3428
02:24:42,630 --> 02:24:40,880
trying to resupply the multinational

3429
02:24:45,190 --> 02:24:42,640
colony on mars

3430
02:24:47,590 --> 02:24:45,200
according to him there's bases on mars

3431
02:24:50,550 --> 02:24:47,600
that were established by us and russia

3432
02:24:52,389 --> 02:24:50,560
in 1964.

3433
02:24:55,030 --> 02:24:52,399
okay

3434
02:24:57,110 --> 02:24:55,040
and so this is where you know it gets we

3435
02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:57,120
go back to the roswell story right

3436
02:25:01,030 --> 02:24:59,439
because then he goes back to roswell and

3437
02:25:03,510 --> 02:25:01,040
he says

3438
02:25:08,070 --> 02:25:05,910
he said just like in the serpo story the

3439
02:25:09,750 --> 02:25:08,080
u.s military captures

3440
02:25:12,469 --> 02:25:09,760
actually two

3441
02:25:16,150 --> 02:25:12,479
aliens from the crash site one they

3442
02:25:18,950 --> 02:25:16,160
named charlie one the name lucy

3443
02:25:22,150 --> 02:25:18,960
and the whole story is hinged on this

3444
02:25:24,630 --> 02:25:22,160
roswell crash with surviving aliens

3445
02:25:26,309 --> 02:25:24,640
just like the serpo story

3446
02:25:28,309 --> 02:25:26,319
these he says they look like typical

3447
02:25:30,710 --> 02:25:28,319
grays

3448
02:25:33,750 --> 02:25:30,720
and uh

3449
02:25:36,469 --> 02:25:33,760
basically his version of the story

3450
02:25:39,510 --> 02:25:36,479
is that um

3451
02:25:43,030 --> 02:25:39,520
the aliens um

3452
02:25:45,349 --> 02:25:43,040
wanted to take charlie and lucy back so

3453
02:25:47,349 --> 02:25:45,359
they wanted to rescue charlie and lucy

3454
02:25:49,510 --> 02:25:47,359
from the u.s army

3455
02:25:51,429 --> 02:25:49,520
and the us army said no we're not giving

3456
02:25:53,990 --> 02:25:51,439
you back your aliens

3457
02:25:54,950 --> 02:25:54,000
to you know to the aliens

3458
02:25:58,469 --> 02:25:54,960
and

3459
02:26:00,469 --> 02:25:58,479
to show that these aliens meant business

3460
02:26:03,270 --> 02:26:00,479
they started to interfere with us

3461
02:26:05,429 --> 02:26:03,280
missiles nuclear sites

3462
02:26:08,309 --> 02:26:05,439
and the you know the flyover of the

3463
02:26:11,030 --> 02:26:08,319
white house in july 19th and 25th of

3464
02:26:13,190 --> 02:26:11,040
1952 yep

3465
02:26:15,990 --> 02:26:13,200
according to this man

3466
02:26:18,230 --> 02:26:16,000
they did that to show this white house

3467
02:26:21,030 --> 02:26:18,240
that they were serious that they wanted

3468
02:26:23,510 --> 02:26:21,040
their two aliens back

3469
02:26:25,670 --> 02:26:23,520
so at this point president truman at the

3470
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:25,680
time ordered the military to release

3471
02:26:29,830 --> 02:26:27,520
these two aliens and hand over the

3472
02:26:31,110 --> 02:26:29,840
bodies that were dead

3473
02:26:32,870 --> 02:26:31,120
to

3474
02:26:35,429 --> 02:26:32,880
the aliens

3475
02:26:37,030 --> 02:26:35,439
and then okay so this is where these

3476
02:26:41,030 --> 02:26:37,040
other stories come into play because

3477
02:26:43,670 --> 02:26:41,040
then this man on his deathbed says

3478
02:26:45,910 --> 02:26:43,680
this led to the famous president

3479
02:26:48,710 --> 02:26:45,920
eisenhower agreement

3480
02:26:52,070 --> 02:26:48,720
which allegedly authorized the abduction

3481
02:26:54,550 --> 02:26:52,080
of thousands of u.s americans

3482
02:26:57,190 --> 02:26:54,560
to these beings in exchange for advanced

3483
02:27:01,030 --> 02:26:57,200
weapons technology

3484
02:27:04,389 --> 02:27:01,040
okay so in 2006

3485
02:27:05,990 --> 02:27:04,399
this anonymous poster says this

3486
02:27:08,309 --> 02:27:06,000
okay

3487
02:27:09,910 --> 02:27:08,319
now coming after project serp like

3488
02:27:11,670 --> 02:27:09,920
literally this is

3489
02:27:14,790 --> 02:27:11,680
a reply

3490
02:27:17,270 --> 02:27:14,800
to project serpo is now somebody else is

3491
02:27:19,110 --> 02:27:17,280
coming forward and saying project serpo

3492
02:27:21,110 --> 02:27:19,120
is dumb

3493
02:27:24,389 --> 02:27:21,120
listen to me

3494
02:27:25,910 --> 02:27:24,399
we have solar warden

3495
02:27:29,190 --> 02:27:25,920
okay

3496
02:27:31,750 --> 02:27:29,200
that's how it started in 2006

3497
02:27:34,389 --> 02:27:31,760
and it was just a thing on the forums it

3498
02:27:36,950 --> 02:27:34,399
was just a thing on the forums

3499
02:27:42,309 --> 02:27:40,150
2000 um when was it

3500
02:27:44,710 --> 02:27:42,319
2007

3501
02:27:49,110 --> 02:27:44,720
and this is when a character was not his

3502
02:27:51,190 --> 02:27:49,120
real name his fake name was henry deacon

3503
02:27:52,870 --> 02:27:51,200
comes on a show

3504
02:27:54,870 --> 02:27:52,880
again with the names bill ryan and

3505
02:27:58,070 --> 02:27:54,880
carrie cassidy

3506
02:27:59,990 --> 02:27:58,080
and he doesn't bring up solar warden it

3507
02:28:03,349 --> 02:28:00,000
was bill ryan

3508
02:28:05,030 --> 02:28:03,359
who reads the forums he brings up have

3509
02:28:07,270 --> 02:28:05,040
you heard

3510
02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:07,280
of solar warden

3511
02:28:12,469 --> 02:28:09,520
and this hairy deacon guy

3512
02:28:13,670 --> 02:28:12,479
says oh yes i can confirm that

3513
02:28:15,510 --> 02:28:13,680
so now

3514
02:28:16,950 --> 02:28:15,520
you have a whistleblower

3515
02:28:19,429 --> 02:28:16,960
saying yes

3516
02:28:22,389 --> 02:28:19,439
solar warden is real

3517
02:28:24,070 --> 02:28:22,399
and this confirms the other testimony of

3518
02:28:26,950 --> 02:28:24,080
another man

3519
02:28:27,990 --> 02:28:26,960
that came out in 2006 by the name of dan

3520
02:28:29,030 --> 02:28:28,000
bierisch

3521
02:28:30,230 --> 02:28:29,040
yes

3522
02:28:31,990 --> 02:28:30,240
okay

3523
02:28:34,230 --> 02:28:32,000
now

3524
02:28:36,110 --> 02:28:34,240
so you have to remember here

3525
02:28:39,110 --> 02:28:36,120
the story comes out

3526
02:28:41,750 --> 02:28:39,120
anonymously from the deathbed confession

3527
02:28:44,070 --> 02:28:41,760
supposedly right to these sites

3528
02:28:44,870 --> 02:28:44,080
and then you have two people

3529
02:28:47,110 --> 02:28:44,880
that

3530
02:28:49,750 --> 02:28:47,120
were kind of friendly

3531
02:28:51,670 --> 02:28:49,760
basically confirming that information on

3532
02:28:53,750 --> 02:28:51,680
the on the forums and because they

3533
02:28:56,150 --> 02:28:53,760
confirmed that information

3534
02:28:58,550 --> 02:28:56,160
suddenly it was cemented

3535
02:29:00,389 --> 02:28:58,560
in ufo history

3536
02:29:03,190 --> 02:29:00,399
and now there's even books

3537
02:29:05,750 --> 02:29:03,200
william tompkin wrote that you know he

3538
02:29:07,990 --> 02:29:05,760
built things for solar warden okay so

3539
02:29:10,150 --> 02:29:08,000
we're we're up against a break which

3540
02:29:12,790 --> 02:29:10,160
i've got to get in right here so when we

3541
02:29:15,590 --> 02:29:12,800
circle back after the break

3542
02:29:17,830 --> 02:29:15,600
uh we'll get to the pipe rating okay so

3543
02:29:19,510 --> 02:29:17,840
everybody just be just be a little bit

3544
02:29:20,469 --> 02:29:19,520
patient here we're gonna get to all of

3545
02:29:23,510 --> 02:29:20,479
that

3546
02:29:24,710 --> 02:29:23,520
uh solar warden is our space program

3547
02:29:27,030 --> 02:29:24,720
just to cover

3548
02:29:29,349 --> 02:29:27,040
for the secret space program

3549
02:29:31,110 --> 02:29:29,359
the ratings are next i would like to see

3550
02:29:32,710 --> 02:29:31,120
yours during the break this is fade to

3551
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black our guest tonight jason quit

3552
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3557
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3559
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3662
02:35:33,830 --> 02:35:31,040
uh a rating here because

3663
02:35:35,270 --> 02:35:33,840
i i have to look at this again two

3664
02:35:37,270 --> 02:35:35,280
different

3665
02:35:39,110 --> 02:35:37,280
things are happening here

3666
02:35:42,150 --> 02:35:39,120
all right so

3667
02:35:44,710 --> 02:35:42,160
um and taking dan bierisch off the table

3668
02:35:48,070 --> 02:35:44,720
because that that guy was was not a

3669
02:35:49,190 --> 02:35:48,080
player and and uh uh major issues with

3670
02:35:52,550 --> 02:35:49,200
that guy

3671
02:35:53,670 --> 02:35:52,560
so taking damn beerus off the table i i

3672
02:35:54,550 --> 02:35:53,680
don't care

3673
02:35:56,790 --> 02:35:54,560
um

3674
02:35:58,790 --> 02:35:56,800
so and and and all of that but the

3675
02:36:02,550 --> 02:35:58,800
original letter

3676
02:36:05,030 --> 02:36:02,560
um that was posted if we go there in the

3677
02:36:06,870 --> 02:36:05,040
introduction of solar warden remember

3678
02:36:09,830 --> 02:36:06,880
what we're talking about

3679
02:36:11,590 --> 02:36:09,840
is our space program

3680
02:36:14,870 --> 02:36:11,600
just a cover

3681
02:36:15,910 --> 02:36:14,880
for a secret space program so right

3682
02:36:20,630 --> 02:36:15,920
there

3683
02:36:23,510 --> 02:36:20,640
four pipes absolutely 100 percent and

3684
02:36:26,389 --> 02:36:23,520
and there's many reasons for that

3685
02:36:28,870 --> 02:36:26,399
okay many reasons and it has

3686
02:36:31,429 --> 02:36:28,880
nothing to do with confirmation or

3687
02:36:33,270 --> 02:36:31,439
deathbed confessions or anything else

3688
02:36:35,510 --> 02:36:33,280
the question is

3689
02:36:37,510 --> 02:36:35,520
is our space work program just to cover

3690
02:36:40,630 --> 02:36:37,520
for a secret space program 100 percent

3691
02:36:43,670 --> 02:36:40,640
four pipes absolutely and if you want

3692
02:36:46,230 --> 02:36:43,680
evidence of the secret space program um

3693
02:36:49,030 --> 02:36:46,240
just look at the x38

3694
02:36:51,750 --> 02:36:49,040
you could just stop right x37b go go

3695
02:36:55,190 --> 02:36:51,760
look at that and that is the secret

3696
02:36:58,550 --> 02:36:55,200
space program that is flying today

3697
02:37:00,870 --> 02:36:58,560
a funded secret access program secret

3698
02:37:02,150 --> 02:37:00,880
space program does that mean bases on

3699
02:37:03,910 --> 02:37:02,160
mars

3700
02:37:07,110 --> 02:37:03,920
does that mean solar warden does that

3701
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:07,120
mean a fleet command and and things i

3702
02:37:10,309 --> 02:37:08,319
don't know

3703
02:37:12,550 --> 02:37:10,319
but there is definitely a secret space

3704
02:37:14,790 --> 02:37:12,560
program that is running that the public

3705
02:37:16,309 --> 02:37:14,800
knows nothing about

3706
02:37:17,590 --> 02:37:16,319
100 percent

3707
02:37:19,030 --> 02:37:17,600
four pipes

3708
02:37:21,110 --> 02:37:19,040
jason

3709
02:37:23,270 --> 02:37:21,120
i would have to agree the secret space

3710
02:37:25,670 --> 02:37:23,280
program exists

3711
02:37:26,790 --> 02:37:25,680
four pipes hands down

3712
02:37:27,750 --> 02:37:26,800
um

3713
02:37:28,790 --> 02:37:27,760
and

3714
02:37:30,309 --> 02:37:28,800
i don't know if you i know you don't

3715
02:37:33,429 --> 02:37:30,319
want to talk about the news

3716
02:37:35,110 --> 02:37:33,439
i know but i have to bring it up

3717
02:37:37,670 --> 02:37:35,120
um in the first

3718
02:37:39,429 --> 02:37:37,680
days of the war

3719
02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:39,439
with russia

3720
02:37:44,550 --> 02:37:42,160
he uh the the minister of space the

3721
02:37:46,870 --> 02:37:44,560
space minister says that

3722
02:37:49,750 --> 02:37:46,880
he they threatened that they would take

3723
02:37:51,830 --> 02:37:49,760
down the international space station

3724
02:37:52,630 --> 02:37:51,840
they and they did

3725
02:37:56,120 --> 02:37:52,640
and

3726
02:38:00,389 --> 02:37:57,429
[Music]

3727
02:38:02,630 --> 02:38:00,399
how like okay they said their guys on

3728
02:38:03,990 --> 02:38:02,640
the station would do that for them

3729
02:38:06,870 --> 02:38:04,000
or

3730
02:38:09,190 --> 02:38:06,880
do they have space based weaponry that

3731
02:38:13,030 --> 02:38:09,200
can do that for them

3732
02:38:15,830 --> 02:38:13,040
and this comes back to the a secret war

3733
02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:15,840
is there a militarization of space and

3734
02:38:20,150 --> 02:38:17,920
is that the point

3735
02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:20,160
of the secret space program

3736
02:38:24,389 --> 02:38:22,960
and i think that's a hundred percent

3737
02:38:27,349 --> 02:38:24,399
what that is

3738
02:38:29,830 --> 02:38:27,359
that we have been um placing things up

3739
02:38:32,469 --> 02:38:29,840
there uh that no one's supposed to know

3740
02:38:33,830 --> 02:38:32,479
about but they could definitely wage a

3741
02:38:36,230 --> 02:38:33,840
space war

3742
02:38:39,190 --> 02:38:36,240
with what they're putting up there now

3743
02:38:41,750 --> 02:38:39,200
um and we're gonna move on okay what's

3744
02:38:44,469 --> 02:38:41,760
your rate you said four pipes four pipes

3745
02:38:47,190 --> 02:38:44,479
four pipes but but when it comes to

3746
02:38:50,070 --> 02:38:47,200
deathbed confessions and

3747
02:38:51,429 --> 02:38:50,080
code names of programs

3748
02:38:53,910 --> 02:38:51,439
that have

3749
02:38:56,710 --> 02:38:53,920
there's zero way of

3750
02:38:58,950 --> 02:38:56,720
figuring out if this is true and having

3751
02:39:01,750 --> 02:38:58,960
whistleblowers that literally discredit

3752
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:01,760
themselves almost immediately

3753
02:39:05,910 --> 02:39:04,000
um i don't give that any water

3754
02:39:08,230 --> 02:39:05,920
whatsoever yeah that's one pipe that's

3755
02:39:11,190 --> 02:39:08,240
one pipe that's one pipe yeah that's one

3756
02:39:13,510 --> 02:39:11,200
pipe but but here's the deal uh and and

3757
02:39:15,830 --> 02:39:13,520
jason i'm going to ask you to not say

3758
02:39:17,670 --> 02:39:15,840
anything about the content

3759
02:39:19,429 --> 02:39:17,680
of what i'm going to say but i'm going

3760
02:39:22,630 --> 02:39:19,439
to make this really quick i sent you a

3761
02:39:24,550 --> 02:39:22,640
video that i shot today i shot three

3762
02:39:26,950 --> 02:39:24,560
right i sent jason one

3763
02:39:30,230 --> 02:39:26,960
and that video

3764
02:39:31,429 --> 02:39:30,240
if that doesn't represent

3765
02:39:35,030 --> 02:39:31,439
uh

3766
02:39:38,230 --> 02:39:35,040
backwards alien tech and engineering

3767
02:39:41,110 --> 02:39:38,240
um i i'll i'll shoot myself in the foot

3768
02:39:43,590 --> 02:39:41,120
because that right there is

3769
02:39:45,429 --> 02:39:43,600
is absolutely

3770
02:39:48,150 --> 02:39:45,439
incredible

3771
02:39:49,830 --> 02:39:48,160
now it's it's

3772
02:39:51,750 --> 02:39:49,840
and i'm just gonna say you know and and

3773
02:39:53,030 --> 02:39:51,760
i i don't want to say any more than that

3774
02:39:55,590 --> 02:39:53,040
because i don't want to get myself in

3775
02:39:57,670 --> 02:39:55,600
trouble you know shooting videos like

3776
02:39:58,950 --> 02:39:57,680
this on location that are time stamped

3777
02:40:01,910 --> 02:39:58,960
and suddenly

3778
02:40:02,950 --> 02:40:01,920
i get a knock on my door i i i don't

3779
02:40:04,309 --> 02:40:02,960
need that

3780
02:40:07,429 --> 02:40:04,319
but uh

3781
02:40:10,230 --> 02:40:07,439
uh you'll you'll just be like hey dodie

3782
02:40:11,830 --> 02:40:10,240
come on in yeah i know right

3783
02:40:13,349 --> 02:40:11,840
that was your first comment today dude

3784
02:40:15,510 --> 02:40:13,359
you're gonna get to visit from the dodie

3785
02:40:18,150 --> 02:40:15,520
dudes but um

3786
02:40:20,550 --> 02:40:18,160
a pretty crazy video huh

3787
02:40:22,150 --> 02:40:20,560
right over the house man and and crystal

3788
02:40:24,469 --> 02:40:22,160
clear perfect

3789
02:40:26,469 --> 02:40:24,479
you know insane okay so enough of that i

3790
02:40:28,950 --> 02:40:26,479
just want to say um

3791
02:40:31,190 --> 02:40:28,960
when when i talk about you know

3792
02:40:33,510 --> 02:40:31,200
backwards engineering and contact and

3793
02:40:35,269 --> 02:40:33,520
the possibilities of this and then i

3794
02:40:36,790 --> 02:40:35,279
turn around and witness stuff like this

3795
02:40:38,469 --> 02:40:36,800
and i see that i just scratched my head

3796
02:40:40,550 --> 02:40:38,479
how did we get here

3797
02:40:43,030 --> 02:40:40,560
well we got here with a lot of help

3798
02:40:44,630 --> 02:40:43,040
and and it wasn't help from this planet

3799
02:40:45,670 --> 02:40:44,640
okay so moving on

3800
02:40:48,870 --> 02:40:45,680
um

3801
02:40:49,750 --> 02:40:48,880
uh next subject

3802
02:40:52,070 --> 02:40:49,760
next

3803
02:40:53,830 --> 02:40:52,080
we'll do it real fast

3804
02:40:56,550 --> 02:40:53,840
is uh

3805
02:40:58,870 --> 02:40:56,560
project looking glass

3806
02:41:00,630 --> 02:40:58,880
yes does the military

3807
02:41:04,070 --> 02:41:00,640
have technology

3808
02:41:06,950 --> 02:41:04,080
that can look into the future or the

3809
02:41:09,429 --> 02:41:06,960
past actually uh with looking glass

3810
02:41:10,870 --> 02:41:09,439
um okay what is looking glass for those

3811
02:41:13,910 --> 02:41:10,880
that don't know

3812
02:41:15,269 --> 02:41:13,920
um basically it's a technology that was

3813
02:41:18,870 --> 02:41:15,279
given to

3814
02:41:19,830 --> 02:41:18,880
us or taken from aliens again

3815
02:41:22,550 --> 02:41:19,840
and

3816
02:41:23,269 --> 02:41:22,560
basically when you look into it you can

3817
02:41:25,750 --> 02:41:23,279
see

3818
02:41:28,389 --> 02:41:25,760
various possible futures

3819
02:41:31,110 --> 02:41:28,399
so it basically whoever has this device

3820
02:41:33,269 --> 02:41:31,120
can see the future and then decide what

3821
02:41:35,830 --> 02:41:33,279
action they want to take to avoid that

3822
02:41:38,070 --> 02:41:35,840
future or to let's say conquer an enemy

3823
02:41:41,510 --> 02:41:38,080
so it's just like an advantage to to

3824
02:41:49,510 --> 02:41:42,389
but

3825
02:41:50,389 --> 02:41:49,520
brought this forward again are people

3826
02:41:53,110 --> 02:41:50,399
that

3827
02:41:54,870 --> 02:41:53,120
um almost instantly lost their

3828
02:41:57,190 --> 02:41:54,880
credibility and

3829
02:41:58,630 --> 02:41:57,200
one of them is even on the fbi's most

3830
02:42:00,630 --> 02:41:58,640
wanted list

3831
02:42:02,790 --> 02:42:00,640
uh in hiding right now and it has

3832
02:42:04,790 --> 02:42:02,800
nothing to do with him being a

3833
02:42:05,990 --> 02:42:04,800
whistleblower for ufo

3834
02:42:07,670 --> 02:42:06,000
things

3835
02:42:08,469 --> 02:42:07,680
so that's just the quality of people

3836
02:42:11,990 --> 02:42:08,479
that

3837
02:42:14,710 --> 02:42:12,000
have added to these story lines in in

3838
02:42:16,870 --> 02:42:14,720
the ufo culture but

3839
02:42:19,190 --> 02:42:16,880
there was a very famous thing called the

3840
02:42:21,590 --> 02:42:19,200
chronovisor

3841
02:42:24,150 --> 02:42:21,600
and this is where i believe

3842
02:42:28,230 --> 02:42:24,160
the um the looking glass technology

3843
02:42:31,190 --> 02:42:28,240
story came from and it was um it's an

3844
02:42:33,190 --> 02:42:31,200
italian uh book

3845
02:42:35,590 --> 02:42:33,200
so french are italian i think it was a

3846
02:42:38,630 --> 02:42:35,600
okay it's a french book

3847
02:42:40,550 --> 02:42:38,640
which described um it's called the

3848
02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:40,560
vatican's new mystery

3849
02:42:46,309 --> 02:42:44,080
and it talks about father francois brune

3850
02:42:49,510 --> 02:42:46,319
who invented this

3851
02:42:50,790 --> 02:42:49,520
machine that was able to look into the

3852
02:42:54,230 --> 02:42:50,800
future

3853
02:42:56,550 --> 02:42:54,240
and this came out in 2002

3854
02:42:58,870 --> 02:42:56,560
so that was a big thing that went on the

3855
02:43:00,070 --> 02:42:58,880
internet in 2002

3856
02:43:01,429 --> 02:43:00,080
and

3857
02:43:03,429 --> 02:43:01,439
you know the names that you said you

3858
02:43:04,469 --> 02:43:03,439
don't want me to mention

3859
02:43:08,710 --> 02:43:04,479
um

3860
02:43:11,190 --> 02:43:08,720
they took on that story in 2005-2006

3861
02:43:13,830 --> 02:43:11,200
and started to describe technologies

3862
02:43:15,510 --> 02:43:13,840
like um

3863
02:43:19,750 --> 02:43:15,520
the yellow book

3864
02:43:21,429 --> 02:43:19,760
or the the black cube or the um

3865
02:43:24,790 --> 02:43:21,439
uh what is it called the

3866
02:43:26,710 --> 02:43:24,800
the it was like a plexiglas

3867
02:43:29,910 --> 02:43:26,720
thing where they can look at it

3868
02:43:32,309 --> 02:43:29,920
and uh looking glass where they can look

3869
02:43:33,110 --> 02:43:32,319
into it and see the future

3870
02:43:37,269 --> 02:43:33,120
now

3871
02:43:40,550 --> 02:43:37,279
this became very big pre-2012

3872
02:43:43,910 --> 02:43:40,560
and the storyline with looking glass was

3873
02:43:45,830 --> 02:43:43,920
that the the good guys the us military

3874
02:43:46,790 --> 02:43:45,840
had this technology

3875
02:43:48,830 --> 02:43:46,800
and

3876
02:43:53,590 --> 02:43:48,840
they see themselves they've already

3877
02:43:56,309 --> 02:43:53,600
won and they can't see past 2012

3878
02:43:58,710 --> 02:43:56,319
which to them was a sign that we

3879
02:43:59,990 --> 02:43:58,720
ascended and everything was great so we

3880
02:44:02,309 --> 02:44:00,000
won

3881
02:44:03,590 --> 02:44:02,319
and then 2012 happened

3882
02:44:06,070 --> 02:44:03,600
and then

3883
02:44:09,429 --> 02:44:06,080
nothing happened so no one talked about

3884
02:44:13,510 --> 02:44:09,439
looking glass technology it was done

3885
02:44:16,309 --> 02:44:13,520
um up until a couple years ago when

3886
02:44:19,830 --> 02:44:16,319
if another forum another anonymous forum

3887
02:44:21,269 --> 02:44:19,840
with q mentioned that the white hats

3888
02:44:23,670 --> 02:44:21,279
have

3889
02:44:25,670 --> 02:44:23,680
looking glass technology

3890
02:44:28,070 --> 02:44:25,680
so they they took that story from

3891
02:44:29,110 --> 02:44:28,080
pre-2012

3892
02:44:31,750 --> 02:44:29,120
and they

3893
02:44:34,150 --> 02:44:31,760
rebranded it as something that now we

3894
02:44:36,469 --> 02:44:34,160
can see the future and know that

3895
02:44:38,309 --> 02:44:36,479
you know trump is going to win 50 states

3896
02:44:40,150 --> 02:44:38,319
and this is going to happen we see the

3897
02:44:41,349 --> 02:44:40,160
future and everything's great we already

3898
02:44:42,230 --> 02:44:41,359
won

3899
02:44:42,950 --> 02:44:42,240
you know

3900
02:44:45,670 --> 02:44:42,960
but

3901
02:44:48,309 --> 02:44:45,680
look into chronovisor this is the

3902
02:44:51,190 --> 02:44:48,319
original story

3903
02:44:53,190 --> 02:44:51,200
of a roman catholic priest

3904
02:44:56,150 --> 02:44:53,200
that creates a machine that could look

3905
02:44:58,070 --> 02:44:56,160
into the future that came out in 2002

3906
02:45:01,190 --> 02:44:58,080
and it was taken

3907
02:45:04,309 --> 02:45:01,200
into our into the ufo community

3908
02:45:08,070 --> 02:45:04,319
okay look that up yeah it's uh it's one

3909
02:45:10,710 --> 02:45:08,080
of the more uh fascinating uh

3910
02:45:13,750 --> 02:45:10,720
again it's it's it's almost

3911
02:45:17,030 --> 02:45:13,760
uh mythological right it's it's this

3912
02:45:20,469 --> 02:45:17,040
this this this story that

3913
02:45:21,429 --> 02:45:20,479
um has it evolved over time i can go

3914
02:45:23,190 --> 02:45:21,439
back

3915
02:45:26,309 --> 02:45:23,200
uh to

3916
02:45:29,030 --> 02:45:26,319
now you said 2002 it seems to me that i

3917
02:45:31,510 --> 02:45:29,040
was reading about this um way before

3918
02:45:34,150 --> 02:45:31,520
that in in the early 90s

3919
02:45:36,230 --> 02:45:34,160
uh when uh this was talked about and

3920
02:45:38,230 --> 02:45:36,240
certainly with uh the vatican connection

3921
02:45:41,030 --> 02:45:38,240
with this and then going back and

3922
02:45:43,510 --> 02:45:41,040
looking at uh historical moments uh

3923
02:45:46,070 --> 02:45:43,520
crucifixion you know different religious

3924
02:45:48,550 --> 02:45:46,080
moments um in the past and

3925
02:45:51,429 --> 02:45:48,560
and and going back and and visiting not

3926
02:45:53,429 --> 02:45:51,439
only this but confirming uh specific

3927
02:45:56,790 --> 02:45:53,439
facts about this and that the vatican

3928
02:45:58,070 --> 02:45:56,800
had this technology now um that being

3929
02:45:59,429 --> 02:45:58,080
said

3930
02:46:02,950 --> 02:45:59,439
uh

3931
02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:02,960
there is right now and this is this is

3932
02:46:07,990 --> 02:46:04,240
where

3933
02:46:10,630 --> 02:46:08,000
um this part of the story if you

3934
02:46:12,550 --> 02:46:10,640
talk about something

3935
02:46:13,830 --> 02:46:12,560
in a science fiction sense science

3936
02:46:15,750 --> 02:46:13,840
fiction right

3937
02:46:17,429 --> 02:46:15,760
if you talk about something

3938
02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:17,439
engineers

3939
02:46:22,830 --> 02:46:21,120
and scientists can take that idea and

3940
02:46:25,269 --> 02:46:22,840
turn it into

3941
02:46:27,510 --> 02:46:25,279
reality go back to the star trek

3942
02:46:30,950 --> 02:46:27,520
communicator right and now we've got the

3943
02:46:33,590 --> 02:46:30,960
flip phone just give somebody the idea

3944
02:46:35,349 --> 02:46:33,600
right just a warp drive well you know

3945
02:46:37,830 --> 02:46:35,359
okay so it's written about it again in

3946
02:46:40,950 --> 02:46:37,840
star trek and and now we're designing

3947
02:46:41,990 --> 02:46:40,960
warp drives today right okay so

3948
02:46:43,750 --> 02:46:42,000
um

3949
02:46:48,950 --> 02:46:43,760
right now

3950
02:46:51,510 --> 02:46:48,960
you can look up a project looking glass

3951
02:46:54,150 --> 02:46:51,520
do it do a google search

3952
02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:54,160
and see what you find

3953
02:46:59,429 --> 02:46:57,120
and this is crazy there are different

3954
02:47:01,349 --> 02:46:59,439
looking glass projects

3955
02:47:04,710 --> 02:47:01,359
with that title

3956
02:47:07,990 --> 02:47:04,720
to look at and predict and understand

3957
02:47:10,230 --> 02:47:08,000
the future as well as the past

3958
02:47:12,710 --> 02:47:10,240
that are being worked on

3959
02:47:15,110 --> 02:47:12,720
uh around the world at the university

3960
02:47:16,230 --> 02:47:15,120
level at the military level

3961
02:47:18,550 --> 02:47:16,240
um

3962
02:47:20,790 --> 02:47:18,560
private corporations

3963
02:47:22,870 --> 02:47:20,800
there are many looking glass projects

3964
02:47:26,389 --> 02:47:22,880
that are active right now and that

3965
02:47:30,070 --> 02:47:26,399
includes uh with machine learning and ai

3966
02:47:31,910 --> 02:47:30,080
so uh uh which none of why would they

3967
02:47:34,230 --> 02:47:31,920
call it looking glass

3968
02:47:36,870 --> 02:47:34,240
well it's because of this story right

3969
02:47:39,510 --> 02:47:36,880
and and and it goes back to

3970
02:47:43,190 --> 02:47:39,520
and has its origins uh back to the

3971
02:47:46,830 --> 02:47:43,200
vatican now um so

3972
02:47:51,510 --> 02:47:49,670
this with our original title does the

3973
02:47:55,190 --> 02:47:51,520
military have technology that can look

3974
02:47:57,269 --> 02:47:55,200
into the future yep they do and they are

3975
02:47:58,230 --> 02:47:57,279
interested in this and this project is

3976
02:48:00,790 --> 02:47:58,240
real

3977
02:48:02,389 --> 02:48:00,800
and the military has their own versions

3978
02:48:03,510 --> 02:48:02,399
of looking glass

3979
02:48:04,950 --> 02:48:03,520
and

3980
02:48:07,030 --> 02:48:04,960
you're going to see some surprising

3981
02:48:09,349 --> 02:48:07,040
stuff when you do a

3982
02:48:11,429 --> 02:48:09,359
google search on this and that includes

3983
02:48:13,510 --> 02:48:11,439
different software projects universities

3984
02:48:15,990 --> 02:48:13,520
and corporations around the world that

3985
02:48:18,950 --> 02:48:16,000
all have their own looking class type

3986
02:48:20,630 --> 02:48:18,960
projects with that operational title

3987
02:48:22,230 --> 02:48:20,640
called looking glass

3988
02:48:24,150 --> 02:48:22,240
so

3989
02:48:28,150 --> 02:48:24,160
four pipes

3990
02:48:30,630 --> 02:48:28,160
no question

3991
02:48:33,750 --> 02:48:30,640
this is technology that is being

3992
02:48:37,110 --> 02:48:33,760
developed as we speak and i don't know

3993
02:48:39,590 --> 02:48:37,120
how successful and and again the the

3994
02:48:40,950 --> 02:48:39,600
working word here is operational

3995
02:48:42,950 --> 02:48:40,960
uh but

3996
02:48:44,710 --> 02:48:42,960
does the military have this technology

3997
02:48:46,630 --> 02:48:44,720
for pipes 100

3998
02:48:48,150 --> 02:48:46,640
absolutely

3999
02:48:51,349 --> 02:48:48,160
i would even say

4000
02:48:53,429 --> 02:48:51,359
uh that the cia and the military used

4001
02:48:56,950 --> 02:48:53,439
remote uh viewers

4002
02:48:58,950 --> 02:48:56,960
back in the the 60s 70s and 80s

4003
02:49:00,389 --> 02:48:58,960
and in a sense that

4004
02:49:02,710 --> 02:49:00,399
a person

4005
02:49:05,429 --> 02:49:02,720
is a looking glass technology and they

4006
02:49:08,870 --> 02:49:05,439
use that as well sure

4007
02:49:09,750 --> 02:49:08,880
um now these stories from the vatican

4008
02:49:11,590 --> 02:49:09,760
um

4009
02:49:13,110 --> 02:49:11,600
you know no one can say they're real

4010
02:49:15,349 --> 02:49:13,120
because they don't have the evidence

4011
02:49:17,190 --> 02:49:15,359
they don't there's stories

4012
02:49:18,550 --> 02:49:17,200
but this is ingrained in us it's

4013
02:49:20,870 --> 02:49:18,560
ingrained in our

4014
02:49:23,030 --> 02:49:20,880
community's culture of

4015
02:49:25,990 --> 02:49:23,040
you know that we may have this

4016
02:49:29,349 --> 02:49:26,000
technology available to us and there are

4017
02:49:32,070 --> 02:49:29,359
actively patents and actively

4018
02:49:36,389 --> 02:49:32,080
universities and and projects that are

4019
02:49:38,389 --> 02:49:36,399
trying very hard to get this technology

4020
02:49:39,910 --> 02:49:38,399
uh working if they have or haven't

4021
02:49:42,550 --> 02:49:39,920
already

4022
02:49:46,389 --> 02:49:42,560
so for me it's a question mark

4023
02:49:49,830 --> 02:49:46,399
it's just a when will we know it's real

4024
02:49:53,910 --> 02:49:49,840
so in that sense i would give it three

4025
02:49:57,030 --> 02:49:53,920
because who knows but it's moving there

4026
02:49:59,429 --> 02:49:57,040
so you're going three pipes yes okay

4027
02:50:02,230 --> 02:49:59,439
here's uh here's a google search for

4028
02:50:04,070 --> 02:50:02,240
project looking glass um

4029
02:50:06,790 --> 02:50:04,080
project looking glass

4030
02:50:08,790 --> 02:50:06,800
uh just that's it right uh

4031
02:50:11,429 --> 02:50:08,800
there's it's got its own wikipedia page

4032
02:50:14,389 --> 02:50:11,439
is a now interactive software project uh

4033
02:50:16,790 --> 02:50:14,399
the gpl to create innovative 3d images

4034
02:50:19,830 --> 02:50:16,800
it is called looking glass

4035
02:50:23,030 --> 02:50:19,840
um but you scroll down visually

4036
02:50:24,550 --> 02:50:23,040
projecting yourself in the past uh right

4037
02:50:26,309 --> 02:50:24,560
the looking classic interactive

4038
02:50:29,510 --> 02:50:26,319
installation exploring limited time

4039
02:50:31,910 --> 02:50:29,520
traveling technique it uh its projects

4040
02:50:33,110 --> 02:50:31,920
uh projects a user to capture a scene in

4041
02:50:35,429 --> 02:50:33,120
real time

4042
02:50:38,070 --> 02:50:35,439
uh you have offit air force base looking

4043
02:50:40,790 --> 02:50:38,080
glass airborne space command

4044
02:50:41,670 --> 02:50:40,800
that is the name of it let me say this

4045
02:50:43,750 --> 02:50:41,680
again

4046
02:50:48,269 --> 02:50:43,760
project looking glass

4047
02:50:51,670 --> 02:50:48,279
airborne space command and that is on

4048
02:50:52,630 --> 02:50:51,680
ioc.gov that is an official page

4049
02:50:54,230 --> 02:50:52,640
for

4050
02:50:56,630 --> 02:50:54,240
congress

4051
02:50:57,990 --> 02:50:56,640
go and look at that up

4052
02:51:02,230 --> 02:50:58,000
army dot

4053
02:51:04,469 --> 02:51:02,240
mil mil the jad c2 experiment 2 provides

4054
02:51:06,710 --> 02:51:04,479
looking glass into the future

4055
02:51:08,469 --> 02:51:06,720
this is april 23 2020 project

4056
02:51:10,790 --> 02:51:08,479
convergence schedule this follows a

4057
02:51:12,550 --> 02:51:10,800
series of learning experiments

4058
02:51:15,670 --> 02:51:12,560
uh right there

4059
02:51:16,710 --> 02:51:15,680
uh limestone analytics project looking

4060
02:51:21,190 --> 02:51:16,720
glass

4061
02:51:22,070 --> 02:51:21,200
on and on

4062
02:51:26,469 --> 02:51:22,080
uh

4063
02:51:27,990 --> 02:51:26,479
over and over again so go i'm four pipes

4064
02:51:31,349 --> 02:51:28,000
four pipes for me

4065
02:51:34,630 --> 02:51:31,359
uh this is a a very serious thing okay

4066
02:51:36,309 --> 02:51:34,640
uh next up uh let's let's wrap up the

4067
02:51:37,510 --> 02:51:36,319
show with this i'm gonna skip over a

4068
02:51:39,910 --> 02:51:37,520
couple of things

4069
02:51:42,309 --> 02:51:39,920
okay let's just go straight to it and uh

4070
02:51:46,630 --> 02:51:42,319
we've got uh eight minutes left

4071
02:51:49,670 --> 02:51:46,640
um uh we need a whole show for this

4072
02:51:51,670 --> 02:51:49,680
flat earth okay oh oh this is what we're

4073
02:51:54,630 --> 02:51:51,680
hitting yeah let's go let's go flat

4074
02:51:57,429 --> 02:51:54,640
earth is the earth

4075
02:51:59,190 --> 02:51:57,439
really flat

4076
02:52:02,550 --> 02:51:59,200
and uh

4077
02:52:05,510 --> 02:52:02,560
um okay

4078
02:52:07,750 --> 02:52:05,520
as quickly as you can what's the origins

4079
02:52:10,070 --> 02:52:07,760
of the flat earth theory

4080
02:52:13,510 --> 02:52:10,080
well it it comes from the earliest

4081
02:52:16,389 --> 02:52:13,520
ancestors of of mankind you know uh very

4082
02:52:18,070 --> 02:52:16,399
ancient mythologies of um

4083
02:52:19,110 --> 02:52:18,080
the firmament which is found in the

4084
02:52:20,469 --> 02:52:19,120
bible

4085
02:52:23,990 --> 02:52:20,479
uh the dome

4086
02:52:25,910 --> 02:52:24,000
uh many ancient cultures including egypt

4087
02:52:28,550 --> 02:52:25,920
they talk about the four pillars or the

4088
02:52:30,950 --> 02:52:28,560
world tree that holds up the sky

4089
02:52:32,309 --> 02:52:30,960
so we have a very ancient rich history

4090
02:52:35,670 --> 02:52:32,319
of

4091
02:52:37,910 --> 02:52:35,680
uh mythology that talks about this dome

4092
02:52:39,110 --> 02:52:37,920
over the planet that separates heaven

4093
02:52:43,910 --> 02:52:39,120
from earth

4094
02:52:47,590 --> 02:52:43,920
or the waters the the oceans the cosmic

4095
02:52:52,790 --> 02:52:50,309
and that we're on a plane so

4096
02:52:54,710 --> 02:52:52,800
it does come from religion

4097
02:52:56,550 --> 02:52:54,720
mostly

4098
02:52:59,110 --> 02:52:56,560
many ancient people

4099
02:53:02,550 --> 02:52:59,120
um including christians

4100
02:53:05,190 --> 02:53:02,560
um they believed the earth was flat and

4101
02:53:08,070 --> 02:53:05,200
it took a lot of people dying and

4102
02:53:09,670 --> 02:53:08,080
getting burned alive

4103
02:53:13,190 --> 02:53:09,680
until they finally turned around and

4104
02:53:14,630 --> 02:53:13,200
said okay the earth is round

4105
02:53:15,670 --> 02:53:14,640
but um

4106
02:53:17,750 --> 02:53:15,680
you know there's there's a lot of

4107
02:53:20,150 --> 02:53:17,760
interesting videos online that kind of

4108
02:53:21,590 --> 02:53:20,160
show you that the earth is flat

4109
02:53:23,190 --> 02:53:21,600
um

4110
02:53:26,070 --> 02:53:23,200
but

4111
02:53:28,550 --> 02:53:26,080
i could i could personally measure the

4112
02:53:31,590 --> 02:53:28,560
earth just myself

4113
02:53:33,830 --> 02:53:31,600
and the rotation and the curvature

4114
02:53:35,349 --> 02:53:33,840
there's ways to do that

4115
02:53:36,630 --> 02:53:35,359
um

4116
02:53:38,790 --> 02:53:36,640
individually

4117
02:53:42,150 --> 02:53:38,800
you don't need to fly into space to see

4118
02:53:44,389 --> 02:53:42,160
the curb there's ways of finding it out

4119
02:53:45,510 --> 02:53:44,399
and um

4120
02:53:47,910 --> 02:53:45,520
that's why they figured out the

4121
02:53:49,990 --> 02:53:47,920
curvature of the earth way back in um

4122
02:53:51,990 --> 02:53:50,000
ancient egypt ancient egypt did it and

4123
02:53:53,990 --> 02:53:52,000
they did it like plus or minus like one

4124
02:53:55,750 --> 02:53:54,000
percent accuracy

4125
02:53:58,309 --> 02:53:55,760
yeah and uh

4126
02:54:01,349 --> 02:53:58,319
and measuring the equator

4127
02:54:04,150 --> 02:54:01,359
uh it basically was shadows

4128
02:54:07,030 --> 02:54:04,160
and and and some and some math

4129
02:54:08,389 --> 02:54:07,040
but they were pretty damn accurate

4130
02:54:11,110 --> 02:54:08,399
just a stick

4131
02:54:14,230 --> 02:54:11,120
on the ground with a shadow yes

4132
02:54:17,269 --> 02:54:14,240
they figured out the circumference of

4133
02:54:18,550 --> 02:54:17,279
the equator of the earth um

4134
02:54:22,469 --> 02:54:18,560
now

4135
02:54:24,870 --> 02:54:22,479
when we when we talk flat earth theory

4136
02:54:26,950 --> 02:54:24,880
when um and again is the earth really

4137
02:54:28,309 --> 02:54:26,960
flat that's the question here

4138
02:54:31,510 --> 02:54:28,319
um but

4139
02:54:33,670 --> 02:54:31,520
how is it with our limited time

4140
02:54:37,429 --> 02:54:33,680
how is it possible that something like

4141
02:54:40,150 --> 02:54:37,439
this would take off as quick as it did

4142
02:54:42,550 --> 02:54:40,160
and and have so many out there that

4143
02:54:44,469 --> 02:54:42,560
would you know take a bullet for this

4144
02:54:46,469 --> 02:54:44,479
for this crazy theory

4145
02:54:48,150 --> 02:54:46,479
and is it just because people like to

4146
02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:48,160
debate when they know that they're wrong

4147
02:54:51,670 --> 02:54:50,000
but they just want to pick a side you

4148
02:54:52,950 --> 02:54:51,680
know you're on the debate team okay

4149
02:54:53,990 --> 02:54:52,960
you're going to be on this side today

4150
02:54:56,309 --> 02:54:54,000
you're going to be on this side no

4151
02:54:57,750 --> 02:54:56,319
matter what your beliefs are on this

4152
02:54:59,190 --> 02:54:57,760
you're just going to choose a side and

4153
02:55:01,269 --> 02:54:59,200
you're going to be an excellent debater

4154
02:55:03,190 --> 02:55:01,279
and that's what you do is that what flat

4155
02:55:05,269 --> 02:55:03,200
earthers are they just want to have fun

4156
02:55:07,830 --> 02:55:05,279
and they're doing this for sport or do

4157
02:55:09,030 --> 02:55:07,840
they actually believe that the earth is

4158
02:55:10,790 --> 02:55:09,040
flat

4159
02:55:12,790 --> 02:55:10,800
i think they actually believe i know a

4160
02:55:14,469 --> 02:55:12,800
couple flat earthers that are are quite

4161
02:55:16,309 --> 02:55:14,479
intelligent people i would say they're

4162
02:55:17,750 --> 02:55:16,319
quite intelligent people that they

4163
02:55:18,870 --> 02:55:17,760
believe this

4164
02:55:21,030 --> 02:55:18,880
and

4165
02:55:24,870 --> 02:55:21,040
i think it has to do with another

4166
02:55:27,349 --> 02:55:24,880
conspiracy which is nasa lies

4167
02:55:29,429 --> 02:55:27,359
so if nasa lies and we're being

4168
02:55:31,190 --> 02:55:29,439
withheld from the truth

4169
02:55:33,590 --> 02:55:31,200
then it's a slippery slope into

4170
02:55:35,269 --> 02:55:33,600
believing anything now what what does a

4171
02:55:37,269 --> 02:55:35,279
flat earther do

4172
02:55:40,230 --> 02:55:37,279
when uh they

4173
02:55:43,349 --> 02:55:40,240
uh get a seat on blue origin

4174
02:55:45,910 --> 02:55:43,359
right or virgin galactic

4175
02:55:48,469 --> 02:55:45,920
and they get fired up into space and

4176
02:55:51,269 --> 02:55:48,479
they take a look at the earth

4177
02:55:53,510 --> 02:55:51,279
did they still come back and say that

4178
02:55:56,710 --> 02:55:53,520
the windows man the blue origin were

4179
02:55:59,830 --> 02:55:56,720
curved right or whatever

4180
02:56:03,269 --> 02:56:00,950
remember

4181
02:56:05,750 --> 02:56:03,279
the earth doesn't look that curved in

4182
02:56:08,150 --> 02:56:05,760
low earth orbit

4183
02:56:10,950 --> 02:56:08,160
you have to go very high

4184
02:56:13,190 --> 02:56:10,960
into orbit to start to see the curvature

4185
02:56:14,950 --> 02:56:13,200
this planet is huge people forget how

4186
02:56:17,670 --> 02:56:14,960
big this planet is and how small you are

4187
02:56:18,630 --> 02:56:17,680
you're like oh jason's a flat earther

4188
02:56:27,429 --> 02:56:18,640
jason

4189
02:56:28,950 --> 02:56:27,439
you know in that

4190
02:56:32,230 --> 02:56:28,960
uh

4191
02:56:34,550 --> 02:56:32,240
what would it take to convince somebody

4192
02:56:37,429 --> 02:56:34,560
that actually believes that the earth is

4193
02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:37,439
flat and the answer to that is nothing

4194
02:56:40,150 --> 02:56:38,640
nothing it's

4195
02:56:41,990 --> 02:56:40,160
they're going gonna have an answer for

4196
02:56:44,230 --> 02:56:42,000
whatever we present

4197
02:56:46,870 --> 02:56:44,240
and and here's the other thing

4198
02:56:49,670 --> 02:56:46,880
we're photographing i mean every planet

4199
02:56:51,190 --> 02:56:49,680
in our solar system is

4200
02:56:53,030 --> 02:56:51,200
a sphere

4201
02:56:55,349 --> 02:56:53,040
everyone

4202
02:56:57,429 --> 02:56:55,359
right but ours isn't

4203
02:56:58,710 --> 02:56:57,439
everything that we photograph in the

4204
02:57:00,070 --> 02:56:58,720
universe

4205
02:57:01,349 --> 02:57:00,080
is a sphere you know you know what i

4206
02:57:03,030 --> 02:57:01,359
mean

4207
02:57:05,030 --> 02:57:03,040
well i think justin

4208
02:57:06,950 --> 02:57:05,040
just just think of it scientifically if

4209
02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:06,960
you have a vacuum right

4210
02:57:10,469 --> 02:57:08,560
it's a it's a pressure that's being

4211
02:57:12,389 --> 02:57:10,479
pulled in all directions

4212
02:57:15,190 --> 02:57:12,399
so if you take a droplet of water and

4213
02:57:16,550 --> 02:57:15,200
you drop it in space or vacuum

4214
02:57:18,469 --> 02:57:16,560
it's going to be pulled in all direction

4215
02:57:19,750 --> 02:57:18,479
which will actually cause the shape of a

4216
02:57:21,429 --> 02:57:19,760
sphere

4217
02:57:24,230 --> 02:57:21,439
so this is kind of what we see is that

4218
02:57:25,750 --> 02:57:24,240
things gather and accumulate towards the

4219
02:57:27,910 --> 02:57:25,760
center point

4220
02:57:31,830 --> 02:57:27,920
you don't even need space for that

4221
02:57:34,550 --> 02:57:31,840
you need a bottle of bubble juice

4222
02:57:36,870 --> 02:57:34,560
that is true blow some bubbles

4223
02:57:40,950 --> 02:57:36,880
that's it that's called gravity man

4224
02:57:42,309 --> 02:57:40,960
and if you want like um i can go outside

4225
02:57:45,429 --> 02:57:42,319
right now

4226
02:57:48,230 --> 02:57:45,439
take a picture of the stars

4227
02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:48,240
call my friend in florida

4228
02:57:51,670 --> 02:57:50,080
say go outside right now take a picture

4229
02:57:53,670 --> 02:57:51,680
of the stars same time we'll take the

4230
02:57:56,630 --> 02:57:53,680
same photo

4231
02:57:58,469 --> 02:57:56,640
and the stars will be off

4232
02:58:00,389 --> 02:57:58,479
in a certain degree

4233
02:58:03,269 --> 02:58:00,399
and then you measure the distance

4234
02:58:04,389 --> 02:58:03,279
between here to florida and how many

4235
02:58:07,190 --> 02:58:04,399
degrees

4236
02:58:09,670 --> 02:58:07,200
the stars shifted on the horizon

4237
02:58:11,510 --> 02:58:09,680
and then you just do some simple math

4238
02:58:13,830 --> 02:58:11,520
you will get the curvature of the planet

4239
02:58:15,910 --> 02:58:13,840
it's that simple it's really that simple

4240
02:58:16,950 --> 02:58:15,920
okay we're at the end of the show

4241
02:58:20,230 --> 02:58:16,960
uh

4242
02:58:23,830 --> 02:58:20,240
flat earth is the earth really flat

4243
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:23,840
one to four pipes jason what say you

4244
02:58:28,870 --> 02:58:25,120
um

4245
02:58:30,830 --> 02:58:28,880
one pipe it is the earth is round

4246
02:58:33,429 --> 02:58:30,840
i'm going one

4247
02:58:35,750 --> 02:58:33,439
pipe the earth is round

4248
02:58:37,349 --> 02:58:35,760
jason what a great show man conspiracy

4249
02:58:38,230 --> 02:58:37,359
number nine what are we gonna do number

4250
02:58:39,429 --> 02:58:38,240
10

4251
02:58:41,830 --> 02:58:39,439
next week

4252
02:58:43,750 --> 02:58:41,840
oh my god

4253
02:58:45,429 --> 02:58:43,760
next week the week after

4254
02:58:48,389 --> 02:58:45,439
hey where where's your new book

4255
02:58:50,950 --> 02:58:48,399
available let's get that yes my new book

4256
02:58:53,110 --> 02:58:50,960
is available on amazon uh just look up

4257
02:58:56,150 --> 02:58:53,120
jason quit it's egyptian postures of

4258
02:58:57,510 --> 02:58:56,160
power uh meditation or sorry

4259
02:58:59,590 --> 02:58:57,520
mysticism

4260
02:59:02,630 --> 02:58:59,600
meditation and movements

4261
02:59:03,590 --> 02:59:02,640
and that is my baby so please get that

4262
02:59:06,550 --> 02:59:03,600
book

4263
02:59:08,230 --> 02:59:06,560
and uh everybody visit the crystal sun

4264
02:59:09,670 --> 02:59:08,240
dot com too as well get yourself some

4265
02:59:11,830 --> 02:59:09,680
water

4266
02:59:13,590 --> 02:59:11,840
lots of crystals on that website you

4267
02:59:15,269 --> 02:59:13,600
were just holding up a chunk of oralite

4268
02:59:18,550 --> 02:59:15,279
i've only got 10 seconds left let me see

4269
02:59:20,469 --> 02:59:18,560
that baby again oh man that would make a

4270
02:59:21,910 --> 02:59:20,479
nice necklace

4271
02:59:23,670 --> 02:59:21,920
oh yeah

4272
02:59:26,870 --> 02:59:23,680
just don't hug anybody you just don't

4273
02:59:28,710 --> 02:59:26,880
hug anybody that is beautiful jason a

4274
02:59:31,510 --> 02:59:28,720
great show tonight man and i can't wait

4275
02:59:33,429 --> 02:59:31,520
to do this again and uh

4276
02:59:37,190 --> 02:59:33,439
as soon as possible

4277
02:59:38,150 --> 02:59:37,200
um i want you back for uh a postures of

4278
02:59:40,950 --> 02:59:38,160
power

4279
02:59:43,670 --> 02:59:40,960
uh uh book show and let's uh go through

4280
02:59:45,429 --> 02:59:43,680
um all of that my friend

4281
02:59:47,429 --> 02:59:45,439
yeah and we still didn't cover a lot of

4282
02:59:49,670 --> 02:59:47,439
the conspiracies now he wrote down so

4283
02:59:52,309 --> 02:59:49,680
we've got still a list we've got a huge

4284
02:59:54,389 --> 02:59:52,319
list in front of us jason quit everybody

4285
02:59:56,389 --> 02:59:54,399
thank you so much jason my best to

4286
02:59:58,950 --> 02:59:56,399
monica go play some guitar

4287
03:00:00,389 --> 02:59:58,960
thank you i'll talk to you jason quit

4288
03:00:03,429 --> 03:00:00,399
what a great show tonight i want to

4289
03:00:05,670 --> 03:00:03,439
thank everybody for coming in and again

4290
03:00:06,870 --> 03:00:05,680
uh always fun to do conspiracy with

4291
03:00:08,389 --> 03:00:06,880
jason quit

4292
03:00:10,790 --> 03:00:08,399
and i don't even know how this show

4293
03:00:12,870 --> 03:00:10,800
started i don't know uh the origins of

4294
03:00:14,790 --> 03:00:12,880
it but it has been so much fun over the

4295
03:00:16,469 --> 03:00:14,800
years fade to black is produced by

4296
03:00:18,150 --> 03:00:16,479
hilton j paul renee dennis and kevin

4297
03:00:20,630 --> 03:00:18,160
announcers are steve hart of gene patel

4298
03:00:22,870 --> 03:00:20,640
and mark d kovar webmaster is drew the

4299
03:00:22,880 --> 03:00:25,990
intro space
introspaceboysspaceboymusic.com

4300
03:00:29,670 --> 03:00:28,070
theta black is produced by kjcr for the

4301
03:00:32,710 --> 03:00:29,680
game changer network and this broadcast

4302
03:00:34,550 --> 03:00:32,720
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4303
03:00:36,550 --> 03:00:34,560
and the game changer network inc it

4304
03:00:38,309 --> 03:00:36,560
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4305
03:00:39,830 --> 03:00:38,319
or used anywhere in the known universe

4306
03:00:41,190 --> 03:00:39,840
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4307
03:00:43,110 --> 03:00:41,200
black at the game changer network i'm

4308
03:00:46,150 --> 03:00:43,120
your host jimmy church tomorrow night

4309
03:00:48,790 --> 03:00:46,160
tony and sheree rathman are here

4310
03:00:51,429 --> 03:00:48,800
it's a full night of ghost hunting until

4311
03:00:56,050 --> 03:00:51,439
then i want everybody to be safe

4312
03:01:02,000 --> 03:00:56,060
it's time to fade to black